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Post by oxankle on Jan 20, 2019 15:22:23 GMT
Anyone got garlic up? Went to a potluck Friday night and a fellow there who gardens with raised beds said his was peeking up. I went out to look; only thing I found was a couple of daffodil scouts looking around.
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Post by grannyg on Jan 20, 2019 16:19:43 GMT
None up around here, but do have some green onions up.....and of course, dandelions are blooming....they just freeze and bloom....LOL
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Post by Skandi on Jan 20, 2019 18:07:34 GMT
We have garlic about an inch tall, winter hasn't even started yet we're forecast a couple of weeks below freezing now. I have winter aconites in flower, and snowdrops in bud, but nothing else is showing. won't get dandelions for another 3-4 months.
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Post by shin on Jan 20, 2019 18:46:05 GMT
Anyone got garlic up? Went to a potluck Friday night and a fellow there who gardens with raised beds said his was peeking up. I went out to look; only thing I found was a couple of daffodil scouts looking around. Ho ho, you are a funny person, I like that. |
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Post by bowdonkey on Jan 20, 2019 23:20:33 GMT
I have 3-4 feet of frost. On the bright side, only a foot of snow!
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Post by oxankle on Jan 21, 2019 1:45:25 GMT
Skandi---We are in way different parts of the world!!! Daffodils will be up and going strong here in February, My walking onions are green. I still have collards and kale green in the garden--neighbor picked some last week. Leeks are still out there as well. My down-the-road-gardening-lady friend is starting seeds on hot pads in her cellar---Too early for me. The wife will not permit me to take over her window sills this early.
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Post by Weed on Mar 16, 2019 20:14:08 GMT
2 months later than usual...I planted 2 - 60' double rows back in early January. 100% of the Russian Red is up 2" as of last week. With none of the Martin's Heirloom up, I went out to investigate. Dug away some of the mulch and there they were, about an inch to go before they sprout. Far less than I usually plant but there WILL be Garlic!
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Post by oxankle on Mar 16, 2019 20:38:48 GMT
Looked at my garlic yesterday; some up six inches. Cleaned out the bed look forward to a good crop. The fellow who lived here before never kept his garden clean---I have a lot of winter weeds to fight. Awfully wet, too; makes getting into the garden difficult, and here it is time to plant potatoes!!!!
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Post by shin on Mar 16, 2019 21:02:02 GMT
I think I have some popping up here, thankfully.  |
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Post by feather on Mar 23, 2019 16:36:27 GMT
SE Wisconsin: we have garlic up 1/2 inch, yay.
EDIT: 4/7 over 200 garlic, up 3 inches now.
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Post by Cindy in NY on Apr 30, 2019 21:58:55 GMT
I put about 4" of straw on top of our garlic and I plant it in the fall. Now that we have what sometimes feels like spring, you can finally see the green leaves of the garlic (almost May!!)!!
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Post by feather on Jul 11, 2019 18:06:22 GMT
Two kinds of garlic. 4b, 5a SE Wisconsin
One is ready to harvest (russian red) and one is not (music).
We are pulling out the garlic, the russian red today, leaves are 30% yellowed.
The music is still almost perfectly green, so it might come out in a week or so.
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Post by 1shotwade on Jul 11, 2019 19:12:19 GMT
I'm in 6B. Pulled my Martins a couple days ago! It's that time.
Wade
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Post by feather on Jul 11, 2019 19:36:13 GMT
1shotwade, we lost 3 heads by pulling, out of 6 rows (150 or so, total). Two pulled off of the bulb and we dug them out, and one lost it's roots, those are in the kitchen now to use! Yay, fresh garlic again! We used landscape fabric with 3 inch holes cut in it. It stayed on the garlic perfectly this time. 4 of the garlic were bigger than the holes.
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Post by 1shotwade on Jul 11, 2019 19:57:25 GMT
Sounds like a fine crop! I am not that lucky. I failed to get the garlic out last year. This spring I had it sprouting in the bag so pulled what was sprouting and did a spring planting. Never produced scapes and not much underground. All the rest of that previous year's crop must not be viable as I sent two friends around 150 cloves but they failed to produce.
This years crop is only to replant and ensure I continue to have this strain. Still plenty in the freezer for domestic use!
Wade
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Post by oxankle2 on Jul 12, 2019 0:35:52 GMT
Guys; Mine is still green and growing. I will likely pull it toward the end of the month. I left all the scapes---lots of Martin's bulbils.
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Post by Melissa on Jul 12, 2019 0:39:09 GMT
Some of mine is still green and some is turning brown already. I need to get it pulled but between the rain and other chores I have not had a chance yet. This evening would be a nice time to be in the garden but we just had more heavy rains.
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Post by Weed on Jul 14, 2019 15:17:26 GMT
Dug the Martin's Heirloom about 3 weeks ago and the Russian Red last week. Both were beyond ready and I was expecting the worst but luckily the paper surrounding the bulbs stayed intact thanks to almost a week of dry conditions. Despite the raised rows & all the rain we had, this year's bulbs were only about 2-1/2" on average but I'm not complaining...could've been worse. Reason was my bad decision to rotate the rows to a different area that wasn't quite deep enough for the garlic. Onions on the other hand, that were grown alongside - were best ever & got huge this year. Just yesterday got those all pulled and hung to dry
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2019 16:10:09 GMT
Lots of garlic here is planted in the fall, grows all winter. Lots of it grown for processing into minced, a lot is swathed and combined for seed. We don't eat much garlic, use more green chives, interplanted to keep bugs away, plant near tomato plants and rose bushes....James
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Post by feather on Jul 14, 2019 16:12:42 GMT
Weed, last year you had asked me if I would recommend the landscape fabric for garlic. 1st year, we didn't have it staked down well enough to make it through the winds in WI winter. It was difficult to reposition once the snow was gone. 2nd year, we did have it staked down perfectly, and it was positioned fine in the spring. It cut way down on any weeding, there was only one weed per hole, if any. The size of the garlic was the same again. <3" for most, and there were only a few too big for the 3 inch holes. So it turned out good. 3rd year-yes we'll use landscape fabric again when we plant this fall. We still have music garlic in the ground. It is almost ready to harvest.
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Post by Melissa on Jul 14, 2019 17:27:56 GMT
Dug some of mine last night. Most were nice-sized. It smells good! Will have to get to the rest of it this week sometime.
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Post by oxankle2 on Jul 14, 2019 18:50:13 GMT
Looked at mine Friday, July 12, found it still green as a gourd. I am planning to work on it week after next. I have landscape cloth, plenty of it, and I will not plant garlic again without it. Onions and garlic are hard to keep weed-free if you have much garden.
I will soon know how badly I was hurt by my failure to keep the garlic beds clean. One thing I learned; the garlic from last-year's fallen bulbils appears to be as large as that from later-planted cloves.
The separation between harvest and replanting will not be so long this year.
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Post by 1shotwade on Jul 14, 2019 19:21:25 GMT
FYI, I harvest in July and replant in Aug every year. (Except when I don't get to it)
Wade
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Post by Use Less on Jul 14, 2019 23:36:19 GMT
Where are you folks located, in general terms, that you plant garlic in August? Around here, it's mid-September to late October. This is upstate NY. Zone 5/6. If the ground isn't really hard, some put garlics in as late as December.
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Post by 1shotwade on Jul 15, 2019 0:18:22 GMT
Southern Indiana! Perdue extension suggests early planting to give it all that available head start before winter weather. It makes a stronger plant to survive winter and a huge headstart in the spring. It has worked so far so I'm not mess'n with something that ain't broke!
Wade
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Post by bowdonkey on Jul 15, 2019 12:09:28 GMT
In zone 3a the Martins is doing awesome. Most of the bubils tops are as big as the cloves tops. Bulb size is a mystery, no leaves are brown yet. It has blown away the native bog garlic as far as top size goes. I did leave a few scapes on both the clove and bubils for experiments next year. All these were planted the same day last September in the same bed.Maybe I'll dig out a couple today and report back.
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Post by feather on Jul 15, 2019 14:32:32 GMT
You go! I hope everyone gets a good harvest!
I have no idea what would happen if we planted in Sept instead of waiting for cool weather--I would be concerned it would grow too much and then not produce the next July. But I'm happy it works for anyone that's doing that.
We pulled out about 60 music today, our first year of music.
2 of them we pulled the stalk off the garlic, huge heads. These go into the kitchen sink, to grind up for cooking (freeze).
17 of them were doubles--which means we didn't get two cloves apart, and more than one clove in the hole, means not enough nitrogen for both to fully form, these were not big and not fully formed into a bulb.
40 of them were good sized, around 3 inches or a little less.
The proportion of mistakes to successes 1/3, not particularly good.
We'll plant green beans in that space, hoping for a fall harvest of green beans.
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Post by Weed on Jul 17, 2019 3:02:52 GMT
Weed , last year you had asked me if I would recommend the landscape fabric for garlic. 1st year, we didn't have it staked down well enough to make it through the winds in WI winter. It was difficult to reposition once the snow was gone. 2nd year, we did have it staked down perfectly, and it was positioned fine in the spring. It cut way down on any weeding, there was only one weed per hole, if any. The size of the garlic was the same again. <3" for most, and there were only a few too big for the 3 inch holes. So it turned out good. 3rd year-yes we'll use landscape fabric again when we plant this fall. We still have music garlic in the ground. It is almost ready to harvest. Nice! I'm glad it's working out. I've been going with the deep mulch method @ the garlic but I'm gonna give it a try this fall. With the 3' wide fabric, I'll bury 6" on the sides as I do @ the strawberry rows. Your fabric is pinned down x the full width though, correct? What spacing do you hold center to center between the 3" holes? |
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Post by feather on Jul 17, 2019 15:41:35 GMT
Nice! I'm glad it's working out. I've been going with the deep mulch method @ the garlic but I'm gonna give it a try this fall. With the 3' wide fabric, I'll bury 6" on the sides as I do @ the strawberry rows. Your fabric is pinned down x the full width though, correct? What spacing do you hold center to center between the 3" holes? Yes the 3' wide fabric. The fabric was pinned down along the entire length both sides and ends. Ours is fully in the open during winter, lots of wind. We doubled up on staking it down this past year.
Garlic 3'' hole, 8 inches on center. Rows are 8 inches apart on center. 4 rows per width.
Onions 3'' hole, 7 inches on center. We aren't burying our length of edge by 6 inches--but I can see how that will work for you.
We're finding that the holes are just perfect after garlic, to plant beans until fall. Then we'll pull it up, top off the soil with composted manure from the farmer, till it in, and put the fabric over that again, and plant garlic. (manure every other year)
All the landscape fabric that doesn't have to be over the garden during winter, we used over the mulch/straw, to protect the black berry vines. Our winters can be wicked.
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Post by Weed on Jul 18, 2019 1:39:06 GMT
Nice! I'm glad it's working out. I've been going with the deep mulch method @ the garlic but I'm gonna give it a try this fall. With the 3' wide fabric, I'll bury 6" on the sides as I do @ the strawberry rows. Your fabric is pinned down x the full width though, correct? What spacing do you hold center to center between the 3" holes? Yes the 3' wide fabric. The fabric was pinned down along the entire length both sides and ends. Ours is fully in the open during winter, lots of wind. We doubled up on staking it down this past year.
Garlic 3'' hole, 8 inches on center. Rows are 8 inches apart on center. 4 rows per width.
Onions 3'' hole, 7 inches on center. We aren't burying our length of edge by 6 inches--but I can see how that will work for you.
We're finding that the holes are just perfect after garlic, to plant beans until fall. Then we'll pull it up, top off the soil with composted manure from the farmer, till it in, and put the fabric over that again, and plant garlic. (manure every other year)
All the landscape fabric that doesn't have to be over the garden during winter, we used over the mulch/straw, to protect the black berry vines. Our winters can be wicked.
Weed likes this 🙂 Haven't laid it out yet on a piece of fabric yet but I'm thinking I'll bury 4" or 5" instead of 6" and lay it out for 3 rows at 8" centers between plants & 7" between rows with the center row being staggered to maximize the distance between the holes. Diagonally, that should be @ right about 8" centers for everything. Seriously doubt I could pin that stuff down tight enough to withstand the NW winter winds that blow thru here otherwise I give it a try. It's a bit time consuming, holding perfectly straight rows when burying the edges but it's a must when burning that many 3" holes Anyway...I'll be aiming higher as usual - rotating back to the west side of the garden where the greasy beans are now and the hardpan is deeper! |
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