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Post by Tim Horton on Jul 13, 2019 17:53:40 GMT
OK..... I have crunched some of the numbers between buying Tattler or Harvest Guard reusable lids.. Harvest Guard is a bit cheaper it seems at first glance. Once you consider shipping here to the far north, the numbers are not that much cheaper as some may have experienced. Frankly, the differences in quantity packaging of both products makes it a bit hard to compare individual part prices. Now the big question........ There is a learning curve that must be learned in using any reusable lid compared to steel lids. And there might be differences of how to use one brand of reusable compared to another brand reusable. Learning a new or different procedure is no problem IF and only IF you can depend on a good safe seal and dependable storage life. So with all this in mind.... How do the HG lids compare overall in ease of use, failure rate, details of using, and all considered from un boxing to end use opening of jars, compared to Tattler My Sweetie has a good grasp on using Tattler and has a system in place that results in very good success with Tattler. Anyone with a good bit of experience with HG brand ?? Anyone with experience with BOTH brands ?? How does one compare to the other ?? If you were to need to buy more lids and rings, which would you buy, and why ?? How easy is one to use compared to the other ?? Facts, details, experience
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Post by feather on Jul 13, 2019 18:05:38 GMT
Experience, tattlers only. When I put them in the water canner or pressure canner, I fingertip tighten them then back off 1/4 inch. Then after processing, I take them out, put them on a towel, and tighten them. I've had excellent results.
I'd love to hear more about the HG type.
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Post by Ozarks Tom on Jul 14, 2019 12:06:59 GMT
I'd be interested in knowing about HG also. When we first heard of Tattlers we bought just a small quantity, too much time/effort/food goes into canning for large scale experimentation. Once we got the Tattler system down, and were satisfied we could trust the system we bought a large quantity.
I don't mind learning from my own mistakes, but life sure is easier if I can learn from someone else's.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2019 16:38:39 GMT
Like the concept but the old way works better for us, overall. Have used both, bought a few when Tattler first came out, then later after the product seemed to be "cheapened" up. Both times went back to Ball flats and have stayed with them. We even reuse lids and have better outcome, overall. We went back to using all of our reusable when regular lids were being made with what seemed like less seal material. We bought 2 dozen HG to try, but Tattler had better outcome for us. We use both since we have them, more for shorter term canning. There is a learning curve for both, different. Old tried and true just works better and is cheaper, more dependable overall. Like Ball flats the best. Won't buy any more reusable since we have lots of flats. Just us....James
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Post by Tim Horton on Jul 14, 2019 22:59:38 GMT
Like the concept but the old way works better for us, overall. Have used both, bought a few when Tattler first came out, then later after the product seemed to be "cheapened" up. Both times went back to Ball flats and have stayed with them. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is kinda, sorta what I was suspecting.. When learning to can or learning to use reusable lids it is best to process half your product with metal and half reusable until your experience and confidence of using reusable builds. !@#$% We went back to using all of our reusable when regular lids were being made with what seemed like less seal material. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Somewhere I read someone saying Kerr lids started coming with less sealing material it seemed and were not producing as good a result. Here in the far north, I don't see many Kerr lids, mostly the occasional part box from garage sales or the thrift store. We do have Ball available. Bernardin lids being the most common and most popular, found pretty much every where.
We almost exclusively use steel, once used lids for home vacuum seal storage.
Every ones experience will be a little different, I suspect..
Keep experiences coming...
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Post by feather on Nov 2, 2019 17:03:37 GMT
There's a facebook group called: Canning and Preserving with Love They have a post that some people have used both tattlers and harvest guard and they are equally successful. So if you are still considering going from one to the other, or using both, you might want to join that group and see what they are saying.
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Post by bowdonkey on Nov 4, 2019 13:51:09 GMT
m.youtube.com/watch?v=Xu5HrkKJjNc. This is how I use them.. I only started using them this year and only on jelly and jam using a 10 minute hot water bath. No failures so far. As an aside I purchased a propane turkey cooker to do the sterilizing and boiling outside to cut down on the water vapor in the house. What a time saver too. Open her up redneck style and geter done. It's been in the low thirties and in 15 minutes its rocking. A wonderful invention that allows me to get to the saloon much quicker.
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Post by Ozarks Tom on Nov 5, 2019 0:08:37 GMT
bowdonkey , Your post reminds me of something that cost us almost $200 to figure out. We have a gas stove, and it started having a yellow flame on all burners. We called out an appliance repair guy, no help. We called out the tech guy from the propane company, changed out a couple regulators, no help. We called out the heat/air guy, no help. Called a plumber to check for any pressure leaks in the propane line, no help. My wife needed more space on the side board, so she moved the countertop humidifier into the living room, blue flame. Too much moisture in the air will turn your propane flames yellow.
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