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Post by here to stay on Dec 20, 2017 23:01:46 GMT
I've noticing that things were changing with one of my goats for a month. Just that she was hanging back when the other goat went around. Then she sort of stopped shoving to be first. She kind of walked tentatively. Her lower lip hangs quite a bit.
Yesterday she left her hay uneaten. I made an appointment and the vet is due in a little. No cudding that I've seen but pee and poop ok.
I think I will ask for a blood panel, ELISA for CAE and CL. Anything else. I think she will be gone in a couple of days if nothing is fone. The vet is not good with goats.
If he offers nothing, I'll start oral B Complex and maybe calcium. No kidding in years.
Any suggestions?
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Post by mzgarden on Dec 20, 2017 23:58:32 GMT
What's your girls' temp? Is she drinking? Can you tempt her with any kind of treat? Can you get a fecal and specifically ask to include test for meningeal worm? Can you take cud from another goat and give it to her? If she's not eating, her rumen can shut down and then she'll be in distinct trouble.
I've used Cayenne in goats that were 'off' to try to stimulate them and to bridge a gap while I'm trying to figure out what's wrong.
Cayenne Powder 2X's a day- · a small pinch for up to 20 lbs, · 20-35 lbs 1/4 tsp, · 35-100lbs 1/2tsp, · 100-200lbs 1tsp. Double up the dose in emergencies. I generally mix with molasses and let them lick it from a bowl or drench them. I've never had to, but in an real emergency, you can give them cayenne every 30 minutes for several hours.
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Post by here to stay on Dec 21, 2017 1:56:40 GMT
Turns out her temperature was 105! And the lip was because it had pitting edema in it. I forgot the first rule of home animal care- take the temperature. The vet felt her all over, handled her mouth, sniffed her breath but could not find an obvious reason for an infection. He said her rumen was pretty much stopped. No breathing issues or snotty nose. He gave her a shot of a tetracycline antibiotic that is supposed to last 48 hours and a shot of banamine. By dinner time, when I let Belly back in the paddock with her for dinner, she was feeling a whole lot better. She actually whuffled at me for dinner. I know it was only that the banamine suppressed the fever but it is better to have an infection than what I was thinking. He'll get back to me tomorrow with the panel results and we'll go from there. That means I have had two animals with really high fevers in a month. Odd to say the least. Tomorrow it's back to taking temperatures each morning. Thanks for your help. mzgarden, I have cayenne pepper if think go douth before the vet gets back to me. I will say that such a high fever made her very easy to handle. Not that she's not good most of the time anyway.
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Post by mzgarden on Dec 21, 2017 5:04:44 GMT
here to stay, good news that she responded to the banamine and antibiotic combo. Hopefully the test results will give you a clear path forward.
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Post by princessferf on Dec 21, 2017 15:26:40 GMT
I hope she continues to improve and feels right as rain by Christmas.
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Post by here to stay on Dec 21, 2017 18:50:10 GMT
I spoke to the vet this morning and will go to his office to pick up 4 more shots of the antibiotic. And some probiotic.
He said something interesting about the edema in her lower lip. He said when the blood gets too thin, it tends to leak out into surrounding tissues and one of the places it accumulates in ruminants us under the jaw and chin. I thought it was just her getting old and her lip getting floppy.
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Post by mzgarden on Dec 21, 2017 19:18:26 GMT
here to stay, glad you can get more antibiotic. Are they thinking the infection caused her blood to thin and result in the lip edema?
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Post by shellymay on Dec 21, 2017 19:19:30 GMT
Happy to hear she is on the mend, hope this takes care of it.....
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Post by here to stay on Dec 21, 2017 19:21:37 GMT
here to stay , glad you can get more antibiotic. Are they thinking the infection caused her blood to thin and result in the lip edema? I think so. Her blood panel was not too far off except for slught increase in white blood cells, sodium and protein levels.
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Post by here to stay on Dec 22, 2017 17:13:46 GMT
So I came home from the vet's with 4 giant syringes of antibiotic to inject every other day.
I love my goaties because they love me back (among other reasons) but they are not the most forgiving of animals. Next week Sally's going to hate me. Sob. I have already devised a plan of instant offering of treats but goats are generally not food fools like dogs.
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Post by mzgarden on Dec 22, 2017 17:31:13 GMT
here to stay, aw, poor Sally and poor you, but all in the name of getting her healthy. I don't have any good ideas for 'sneaking' in those shots. Goats are pretty clever and mine see me coming a mile away when I've got something they don't like (DiMethox, stingy shots, etc.) Maybe once she's better, we can see a picture of Miss Sally?
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