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Post by whisperwindkat on Jul 4, 2019 12:05:44 GMT
Southeastern US is nice. Typically conservative thinking, can't look in any direction without finding a church, land is relatively cheap especially the farther out you grow. Down here in South central Alabama i have a good mix of sand and clay soil that needs some amending but is easy to work. Growing year round is possible without greenhouses and even when they say we are in a drought things are still growing and we are still mowing grass. HOwever, summertime is not sticky sweltering hot. Bugs might carry you away if you aren't properly armed. Good luck.
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Post by mountainlover on Jul 23, 2019 17:36:53 GMT
If you're the type of person who can adapt and be happy anywhere then this really wide net you're casting will workout. If there are some things that are non-negotiable to you then you should make a list of those things.
We were going to move a couple of weeks ago. My net was as wide as yours. Then we looked at places and I realized it wasn't as wide.
In another post I think you mentioned had kids. Even if they're not moving with you do things like a state with a high percentage of CPS kidnapping matter to you? What about child trafficking statistics? Would you want to give your taxes to a state like New York that supports full term abortion even when it's not medically necessary?
Another thing to consider is moving to too "good" of a state like Texas. So many families are leaving New York or California and going to states like Texas thinking it will be the last state to lose is freedoms. If these people vote in the people they voted in at NY and CA then they are turning the state they move to into the state they moved from little by little.
For me what really helped was an excel spreadsheet another mom shared with me. In it she listed all 50 states. Then she listed things important to me such as homeschool laws, vaccine exemptions, gun laws (for ownership), political leaning etc. It really helped me more than I thought it would.
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Post by aussiedarren on Jul 24, 2019 10:55:14 GMT
If you're the type of person who can adapt and be happy anywhere then this really wide net you're casting will workout. If there are some things that are non-negotiable to you then you should make a list of those things. We were going to move a couple of weeks ago. My net was as wide as yours. Then we looked at places and I realized it wasn't as wide. In another post I think you mentioned had kids. Even if they're not moving with you do things like a state with a high percentage of CPS kidnapping matter to you? What about child trafficking statistics? Would you want to give your taxes to a state like New York that supports full term abortion even when it's not medically necessary? Another thing to consider is moving to too "good" of a state like Texas. So many families are leaving New York or California and going to states like Texas thinking it will be the last state to lose is freedoms. If these people vote in the people they voted in at NY and CA then they are turning the state they move to into the state they moved from little by little. For me what really helped was an excel spreadsheet another mom shared with me. In it she listed all 50 states. Then she listed things important to me such as homeschool laws, vaccine exemptions, gun laws (for ownership), political leaning etc. It really helped me more than I thought it would. Hey mountainlover that’s why I’m asking the opinions of people who live there. I know generalities about the States have visited once, but some things you can’t learn without boots on the ground. I can make anything work, I’m an adaptable type of person but as far as details nope honestly don’t know them. Without getting into politics, you have many freedoms in the States denied to us here due to your Bill of rights and amendments, so to me that is a huge bonus. My kids are grown, part of the reason I am ready to make a change, only me to worry about and the good lord will take care of me.
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Post by mountainlover on Jul 24, 2019 11:37:04 GMT
I don't see it as talking politics and if it is, it doesn't bother me to.
Which of our rights are important to you? Just because they are in the Bill of Rights doesn't mean they are followed and allowed.
Children sent to public school are not allowed to wear anything with Bible verses, talk about religion, or pray. They can and will expel you for doing so. Creationism is never taught in public schools anymore. The theory of evolution is taught as truth. This is an example to show that when it says you have freedom of religion, is not true just because that's what it says. A lot of workplaces forbid discussing religion as well.
So tell us if something is really important to you as far as rights go.
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Post by aussiedarren on Jul 24, 2019 12:13:17 GMT
Here I am seen as one of the 3 weirdos at a work place of 200, because there are 3 of us that profess our faith. Must be crazy because I make knives, tell people that and watch them back away, they don’t care about the work and artistry just the I make “killing tools”. Can’t own a gun including a BB gun unless I re apply for my gun license, which I let lapse and sold my guns during my divorce as it is a thing that will be used against you, guns and license taken away if the ex takes in mind to complain about you. When you have a gun and license you can not use it in self defense as guns and ammunition must be kept in separate police approved safes, and the police can come at any time they want to inspect both guns and the storage. I can not carry even a pocket knife without a reason the police “think” is justified and yes it is written into law that way, no I am a knife maker is not a valid reason. Heck people look at me weird when I say I go herding with my dogs. Australia is like what America would became in 20 years without your bill of rights. We do not have the protection of our rights written into law and have to rely on what then government says we can and can’t do. Last mass shooting yes I was a fair while back but we never had them more often than every 10years, semi automatic guns became illegal, all guns had to be register well before that, so I had to hand in the deadly ruler 10/22 I had and watch it get crushed so they could stop me from killing innocents! They were nice enough to pay me $200 for a gun I had bought 2 years earlier for $600. Well I guess those are some of the rights I am after, to live and not be considered of a criminal mind because I am Christian and like an outdoor lifestyle. Mind you despite the fact that the government and society looks down on me as a criminal or weird, I have a perfect legal record, have passed police checks as Security, a Private investigator and my Working with Children check. My fingerprints are on file due to the Investigation license to make sure there where no unsolved cases against me(standard to get the license) To be a Conservative White Christian Male in a country that has turned radically liberal is not so easy.
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Post by LauraD on Jul 24, 2019 12:45:47 GMT
One easy way to get a rough baseline of a state is to look at the political-party representation in the state-level government: state congress, state governor, etc. It's not perfect, but clear leanings one way or the other tend to be indicative. There's also the " freedom in the 50 states" report that you may find helpful. While its definition of freedom is lack of restrictions - whether it be on abortion, gay marriage, or gun ownership - it has a breakdown on a lot of the topics that you may find helpful. When my hubby & I were deciding whether to stay in Missouri or settle in another state, we used this report quite heavily as a resource.
Issue-specific organizations can also help in your search. The National Rifle Association (NRA) most likely has information on its website regarding the states with the least restrictive firearm laws (including self-protection), and National Right to Life would be a source regarding abortion.
Of note, right vs left tends to correspond to urban vs rural in the States. The more and larger cities the state has (or is next to, as in the cases of Maryland & Virginia), the farther left the state government will tend to be. For example, it is my understanding that most of Illinois is rural and its people conservative, but Chicago drowns out the rest of the state's voice merely due to its size. Missouri is quite conservative except for three areas: Kansas City, St. Louis, and Jefferson City (the capital).
Hope this helps a little.
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Post by Maura on Jul 24, 2019 16:54:58 GMT
One point of interest is how much litter is on the street. Urban or rural, do people pick up after themselves or do they expect someone else to do it? This would not tell you how liberal or conservative people are, but just something you might want to think about. I live now in a low economic rural area. The place is clean. When I lived in Detroit, the city was clean, it's not anymore.
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Post by mountainlover on Jul 25, 2019 1:40:43 GMT
aussiedarren, I agree with Laura in that you probably want a right-leaning Republican state. Some states though are so bipolar. The north can be completely run by Democrats while the south can be mostly Republican-leaning. Since gun ownership is important to you, you should consider the states who are more lax in that regard. It's really easy to have guns in TX for instance. CA it's really hard to get one and they have restrictions on what kinds you can carry. If you want to do concealed carry then there are states good for that and some not so good. Freedom of religion is pretty good outside of public schools which you don't have to worry about unless you foresee your grandchildren coming to live with you and use the schools one day. If you want a city openly Christian though then that's worth looking into as well. Some cities are so openly Christian they have laws in place that go against state laws in the favor of Christians. If a state has legalized marijuana there are cities that still outlaw it. Same with liquor, there are some cities you can't sell it at all and have to leave the city to purchase any. Hope that's helpful!
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Post by Maura on Jul 25, 2019 2:04:24 GMT
If you just want to own guns, you can pretty much go anywhere. Those who are anti handguns tend to live in big cities where handguns are responsible for many deaths. You can carry a knife if it is small, I think under 3". When you look at crime statistics look at the type of crime. If it is mostly domestic, you know you can walk down the street safely and not fear a group of teenagers on the sidewalk. There are places where people don't lock their doors, or are pretty loose about it.
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Post by Ozarks Tom on Jul 25, 2019 18:47:36 GMT
I'm still pitching the Ozarks. Only Federal gun laws apply here, meaning no full auto weapons without a license, can't be a felon, background check to buy from a dealer. Other than that, Missouri has no restrictive gun laws, lots of gun shows where a person can buy from another individual without going on a list, and even a website for private gun sales www.armslist.com/classifieds/springfield-missouri
If there's a law about folding knives I haven't heard of it. Been carrying a 4" Buck for many years.
Every religion you can think of here, but very few muslims. You certainly wouldn't be in the minority to be a Christian here.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2019 22:58:21 GMT
I'm still pitching the Ozarks. Only Federal gun laws apply here, meaning no full auto weapons without a license, can't be a felon, background check to buy from a dealer. Other than that, Missouri has no restrictive gun laws, lots of gun shows where a person can buy from another individual without going on a list, and even a website for private gun sales www.armslist.com/classifieds/springfield-missouri
If there's a law about folding knives I haven't heard of it. Been carrying a 4" Buck for many years.
Every religion you can think of here, but very few muslims. You certainly wouldn't be in the minority to be a Christian here. As another Ozarkan transplant, I agree with everything Ozarks Tom has posted. Sure, there are flies in the best of ointments, but the Ozarks are pretty darned wonderful. I grew up in Chicago, lived in the Chicago suburbs, had a farm in WI. Ozarks are my favorite.
Re: Guns, my husband and many of our friends carry open. I carry open or concealed, depending on what I'm wearing. Most times, though, it's concealed.
You're going to need critters to make plenty of manure to make the soil better, but you can still grow stuff in it - just rearrange the rocks. LOL We use raised beds, and are plenty pleased with them.
Open profession of faith is still the norm here. And if it wasn't, well... I'd still openly profess. But I know I'm blessed to be in an area where I don't get flak for it.
Weather is decent, and we are blessed with incredible neighbors. Granted, we have to make a road trip to see our favorite neighbors, Ozarks Tom and his sweetheart. But once you get on the blacktop, travel is easy.
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Post by aussiedarren on Jul 30, 2019 4:54:56 GMT
@pony, I open profess now and detractors dont worry me, if you hide yours faith you arent exactly going to bring people from the outside in. Yeah its a struggle at times but would not change who I am as a Christian, not much of a battle compared to those that get killed for their faith.
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Post by Woodpecker on Jul 30, 2019 16:50:22 GMT
Keep your faith strong in the Lord...ask Him where you should move. Get your information about locations and let God lead you to the right, peaceful home.🙏🏻 I count on the Lord for all things.
Prayers for you and the right location🙏🏻
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Post by karenbc on Jul 31, 2019 2:34:41 GMT
Being from British Columbia now, and raised in Alberta...the price of land in Alberta is far out of reach for the most part, and land taxes are quite high.
British Columbia (BC) it really depends on where...the southern western parts have mild winters - but prices of land are horrible, and taxes are nuts. We are just about in the middle of the province - and we DO get winters, sometimes as low as -35F and once in a while dips lower. Land half an hour or so from a larger town can be more reasonable.
There are always jobs here in BC for the trades like carpentry, some would be union, some non-union.
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Post by my3boys on Aug 11, 2019 2:55:30 GMT
One thing I haven’t heard mentioned in this discussion is the existence of large predatory land animals that just don’t exist in Australia.
You might want to consider what you are willing to deal with and what you aren’t when choosing a location. There’s nothing quite like hearing a noise late at night and discovering a 500 lb bear on your front porch. It can be quite unnerving when you’re not accustomed to their presence (or even if you are). Wolves, bobcats, coyotes, you get the picture.
My inlaws found that out first-hand when they moved from Fla to the mountains of North Carolina. It was trying to get into the chest freezer they kept on the side porch.
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Post by grandmotherbear on Aug 19, 2019 1:30:13 GMT
Let's add another thought: if you moved to Canada could you not get a camper and spend the winter months in the deep South (US) fixing houses for old ladies in Florida? What kind of Visa would that take? A tourist one perhaps? Wouldn't that be much easier to get than an employer sponsored one? I don't know the process, but there are lots of Canadian license plates in Florida in the winter, so it can't be that hard. Again, just a thought... To be in business in Florida you need a tax number, a license and insurance. Plus you should know how much you are permitted to do without a permit. Then there is the matter of pulling proper permits. AD itenerate handyman are strongly discouraged by local authorities. We had a problem in this state after Wilma- much roof shingling stripped off by the winds. There are a lot of unemployed people out in Belle Glade (agricultural but stinking hot and humid in summer) who couldn't afford to fix their roofs. A few years later the Mennonites arranged to come and fix roofs. There was no opposition and it was widely reported in newspapers across S Fl. The project heads from the mennonites arrived and the sheriff department and the city government announced that no permits had been obtained and anyone working on roofs without the proper permits would be arrested. The mennonites had come for 6 weeks and the city authorities announced it would take a minimum of 8 weeks to finish the permitting promise. When I heard about it I asked GFB who had friends or relatives in construction contracting or building supplies. Don't count on under the table work as a handyman or construction trade worker in FL
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Post by AD in WNC on Aug 19, 2019 15:59:36 GMT
grandmotherbear I apologise for not being clear. I was not thinking be of any major construction work. I was thinking about painting and hanging small shelves and fixing window screens. Stuff that I would put on a 'honey-do' list. I also didn't mean to imply that any of the work was to be done under the table - I pay my fair share of taxes and I expect everyone else to pay their fair share too.
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Post by aussiedarren on Dec 4, 2019 5:54:35 GMT
Sorry folks been off for a while. Predators not really a great concern, heck would love to be able go hunt them which I can't do here. Income I can always find a way to pay the bills and do have enough money to set up some income streams as well (rentals is my first idea there). Handyman, on site carpenter, Blacksmithing at fairs, selling knives, garden maintenance are all easy got to options, but never been shy to turn my hand to hard work or something new.
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