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Post by bluemingidiot on Apr 17, 2020 22:52:36 GMT
Demand for rural homes shows ‘profound, psychological change’ due to coronavirus. CEO Glenn Kelman said 0.5% of Redfin’s virtual tours were rural before the virus hit the U.S., but now they make up roughly a third.
Redfin is a real estate brokerage. Redfin's business model is based on sellers paying Redfin a small fee, either 1 or 1.5% to list the sellers home.
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Post by Jolly on Apr 17, 2020 23:22:14 GMT
Most of 'em won't like it when they get here...
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Post by Use Less on Apr 18, 2020 0:27:55 GMT
Or they will want "city stuff" in a rural location. Non sequitur.
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Post by bluemingidiot on Apr 18, 2020 1:14:26 GMT
I assume that one of the consequences will be much higher property taxes. Both from price increases plus all the accoutrements city people like.
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Post by woodwind77 on Apr 18, 2020 19:05:23 GMT
I hope most of those people looking were just bored, and looking for something to do to pass the time. City people, please don't move to the country - we like our peace and quiet !
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Post by mogal on Apr 18, 2020 19:57:19 GMT
Case in point to woodwind's comment:
Before DH retired he did computer software training both on the customer's site and from home via internet. Once he was working in a high crime area of a huge city on the West Coast--won't call any names but some folks refer to it as LA. All the people with whom he worked advised him to leave immediately when operations closed for the day. One of the men asked him where we lived. DH went on Google maps and showed him our property with all the forest, pastures and few houses around it. The guy's response was "Aren't you scared out there with no people around?" The man was also incredulous that except for a bunch of animals including our big dogs, I stayed here alone when DH was traveling, sometimes for 2-3 weeks at a time.
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Post by countrymom22 on Apr 18, 2020 19:58:02 GMT
As the pandemic subsides, these people will begin to resume life as usual and forget all about moving to the country.
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Post by feather on Apr 18, 2020 20:11:49 GMT
Case in point to woodwind's comment: Before DH retired he did computer software training both on the customer's site and from home via internet. Once he was working in a high crime area of a huge city on the West Coast--won't call any names but some folks refer to it as LA. All the people with whom he worked advised him to leave immediately when operations closed for the day. One of the men asked him where we lived. DH went on Google maps and showed him our property with all the forest, pastures and few houses around it. The guy's response was "Aren't you scared out there with no people around?" The man was also incredulous that except for a bunch of animals including our big dogs, I stayed here alone when DH was traveling, sometimes for 2-3 weeks at a time. In the period in my life after the divorce until almost 10 years later, I worked from home and saw my children on alternate weeks, so alone one week at a time. Completely. I rarely shopped until I had to shop. People do NOT understand isolation until they do it themselves, the good and the bad of it. Aren't you scared, NO I'm not. I'm only scared when some stranger in on my property or ringing my door bell. If I was to be scared, I'd be scared for the stranger with no business here. I went on to work at a corporation with 'won't call any names but some folks refer to it as LA', that just made me laugh. The other half of the dep't I worked in was a suburb of a place called LA. Mogal, have you personally been to the place called LA? I was on the bypass around it and it was polluted and ridiculously busy, lots of speeding and motor cycles going in and out of traffic, crazy people everywhere. When you fly in, you fly in barely over the sky scrapers to land. I would never live there, I'd walk hundreds of miles to find some quiet.
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Post by Mr DAVID In Wisconsin on Apr 18, 2020 20:50:09 GMT
feather, Your quest for a greater understanding of Oshkosh and Moscow is a noble endeavor. Too deep for me though.
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Post by feather on Apr 18, 2020 21:04:46 GMT
feather , Your quest for a greater understanding of Oshkosh and Moscow is a noble endeavor. Too deep for me though. I know, I'm digging deep, trying to figure out the connection. I'm going to think on it for a while.
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Post by bluemingidiot on Apr 18, 2020 21:47:16 GMT
Depending on where one is, both cities have the same elevation. Elevation is important when one is subject to snow drifts. Additionally, the most popular pet in both cities is the mosquito. The people have trained their mosquitos to follow them around. Citizens from both places enjoy getting together for kolbasa and beer or vodka and share snowdrift and mosquito stories.
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Post by Mr DAVID In Wisconsin on Apr 18, 2020 22:17:44 GMT
bluemingidiot, I am in awe of your deep understanding and spiritual knowledge. And your google search skills too.
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Post by feather on Apr 18, 2020 22:27:24 GMT
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Post by mogal on Apr 18, 2020 22:42:17 GMT
Mogal, have you personally been to the place called LA? I was on the bypass around it and it was polluted and ridiculously busy, lots of speeding and motor cycles going in and out of traffic, crazy people everywhere. When you fly in, you fly in barely over the sky scrapers to land. I would never live there, I'd walk hundreds of miles to find some quiet.
No, thank goodness. I have been in NYC, flying in and driving through, Washington, DC, Boston, Chicago and Denver among others and of course, St. Louis and Kansas City and their suburbs aren't backwaters. Springfield even has a long by-pass to avoid the city center. The last time I was in NYC, we drove. My turn was the last 60 miles of the New Jersey turnpike before you cross into the city itself. The traffic was bumper to bumper, 8 lanes in one direction, at least 70 mph. I was scared out of my wits. My last job before I retired was on the eastern edges of Columbia and if I timed it right, I could be well out of town before the heavier traffic got started. I always felt like I was on the very front edge of a tsunami and didn't breathe easier until I was over the county line, but still about 20 miles from home. Some years back, DH was working in LA and got sick. I started getting my ducks in a row to go get him. I dreaded it but his safety was more important than mine. He told me to stand down as he didn't get worse. I am not a city girl.
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Post by Melissa on Apr 18, 2020 22:53:41 GMT
After being stuck in an apartment for weeks a lot of people might be rethinking their life choices. Many people have the dream of country living. I hope those who really want to move find a way to succeed.
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Post by wally on Apr 18, 2020 23:25:22 GMT
After being stuck in an apartment for weeks a lot of people might be rethinking their life choices. Many people have the dream of country living. I hope those who really want to move find a way to succeed. Not me ,been on my farm 20 years and the last thing I want is a city person in my area.
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Post by Melissa on Apr 19, 2020 0:33:21 GMT
Well I would say there are people who live in the city and there are city people. Might not necessarily be the same thing!
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Post by Mari-in-IN on Apr 19, 2020 0:48:55 GMT
As the pandemic subsides, these people will begin to resume life as usual and forget all about moving to the country. Let's hope!!
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Post by laurazone5 on Apr 19, 2020 10:16:49 GMT
As the pandemic subsides, these people will begin to resume life as usual and forget all about moving to the country. I agree 100%. Folks are going crazy in lock down with trails, parks, sidewalks, playgrounds, WIFI. I can't imagine an amateur way out in the sticks, with nothing but nature.
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Post by Use Less on Apr 19, 2020 11:34:40 GMT
I have friends in Manhattan and Brooklyn who are thinking of leaving the city, but those thoughts are not all that new. A number of them are at an age where they are marrying, having kids, would like a house or at least a bit of yard. The thing about NYC, for those who haven't been in the region, is that an hour and change north or northwest, you can get beyond the $$$ glamour suburbs, and be in "normal" towns or rugged countryside.
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Post by bluemingidiot on Apr 19, 2020 16:07:55 GMT
I think the biggest difference from before is that a lot of America has learned they can do their jobs from home. That means many corporations don't need as many expensive, high maintenance offices in expensive cities. Many jobs no longer need to be within the limited, more expensive commuting distance of major cities.
People have also learned how to meet without physical proximity. Cities will be less mandatory for good jobs.
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Post by mogal on Apr 19, 2020 16:25:54 GMT
Before she passed, DH's mom campaigned HARD for us to move to her town and buy the house next to her. She would have been relentless if she'd realized all he needed to do that job was a computer, internet access and a phone line but she didn't understand how all that works. THANK GOODNESS.
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Post by Jolly on Apr 19, 2020 18:42:21 GMT
Y'all know as well as I do, that a rural lifestyle with a bit of land, a garden and a few animals, requires work.
Hard work.
Sometimes, everything in the garden comes in at one time. Sometimes, you sit up all night with an animal while she's having trouble birthing. Sometimes, you do everything right, and a late frost messes up all your hard work and plans and you have to re-do.
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Post by Use Less on Apr 19, 2020 19:23:29 GMT
Well, Jolly, there's rural life the way I'll guess 'most everyone here understands it, and then there's "moving to the country". I'm OK with folks building/buying and just living out there somewhere, as long as they don't then call up town hall every time a combine goes up the road, whenever dairy farmers spread in the late winter, when their well smells of sulfur and they are disgusted that there's no "city water".
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Post by mogal on Apr 19, 2020 19:24:27 GMT
Jolly, there is nothing so optimistic or determined as a farmer, gardener or livestock owner unless it's the combination--a homesteader.
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Post by dodgesmammaw on Apr 20, 2020 0:55:48 GMT
City folks are just having time to slow down and realize that 2300. A month rent could buy a nice place in different location.
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Post by Tim Horton on Apr 20, 2020 2:59:44 GMT
Or they will want "city stuff" in a rural location.
I assume that one of the consequences will be much higher property taxes. Both from price increases plus all the accouterments city people like.
Most of 'em won't like it when they get here...
I hope most of those people looking were just bored, and looking for something to do to pass the time. City people, please don't move to the country - we like our peace and quiet
As the pandemic subsides, these people will begin to resume life as usual and forget all about moving to the country. ++++++ We can only hope so... ++++++++++ All the above here already... But I'm sure it can and will get worse in some places for a while anyway..
They want instant, full power TV, internet, fill in the blank, like in the condo.. If the power goes out an hour hundreds will call and complain..... OMG, no, NO you can't hunt, then they get upset and demand someone "do something" when the bear tears the door off there barn to get at the feed or there new foal, or little dog Fluffy..
DO NOT.... get me started...
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Post by mollymckee on Apr 20, 2020 5:49:16 GMT
We have had the joy of being targeted by CA escapees. They move up here and don't like the dirt roads, no street lights, and it's too far from the stores. They don't stay too long, thank goodness. A few bad winters and they go somewhere else. A few are nice but hearing "in CA we do this" on an ongoing basis gets old. TX is getting lots of them now. Unfortunately many want to bring Ca with them and destroy their new home as well.
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Post by bluemingidiot on Apr 20, 2020 10:34:51 GMT
Many plains Indians would find pristine spots with clean water and food resouces and set up camps. After so many months the food resources were consumed, the place would acquire an intolerable amount of trash, waste and insects, which would attract other vermin such as skunks (possibly with rabies) along with mice/rats, which would attract snakes. They also had to go further for clean water. So they would go to another pristine spot with clean water and food resources. With limited populations that life style could be perpetual.
California is more like Mordor.
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Post by snoozy on Apr 21, 2020 16:45:18 GMT
There are plenty of people who come from the city who are not idiots. Yes, even from California. Sounds to me like some of you feel the need to disparage them to feel better about yourselves. If there are people who are realizing what is important in life to them (clean air, space, fresh food in their control, wildlife, forests, quiet...), there is no reason to deride them. You should be happy more people are "getting" the concept. You should be happy that some of those crappy broken down properties in your neck of the woods might get bought up, fixed up and lived in. You should be happy that when you need to sell up for whatever reason, your property might be worth something in the real estate market. Not to mention, a bigger tax base can support your county services like first responders, school and libraries. And when you need some teenager to help you stack the wood or mow the grass, there might actually be a younger generation in the countryside.
Sometimes, y'all'er a buncha sourpusses.
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