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Post by paquebot on Mar 24, 2016 17:31:34 GMT
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Post by mzgarden on Mar 24, 2016 18:29:18 GMT
wow. To be honest, the pictures of all those goats in pens (shown as an example from another dairy) doesn't make me warm & fuzzy.
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Post by Wendy on Mar 24, 2016 19:18:26 GMT
Interesting! I do think it would be better if the goats could spend some time outside. I don't like to think of them being confined all the time. Just not natural.
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Post by feather on Mar 24, 2016 19:41:03 GMT
I think it's great that we'll have a goat milking operation here in WI about 60 miles from me. More local goat's milk cheese means lower prices at some point. The owners like the idea of the goats being able to go outside but goats don't tolerate the cold winters the way that cows might. So they will probably be outside spring, summer, and fall. Good for them!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2016 21:46:48 GMT
Well, let's do the math! The article states,
Even if the nine acre facility is solely dedicated to the goats for roaming around, that would equate to 43.56 square feet per goat. But, I highly doubt that the nine acre facility will work that way. I would bet that the nine acre facility also includes feed storage areas, milk parlors, equipment storage areas, manure storage areas, etc. So that 43.56 square feet per each goat will probably be a pipe dream.
I guess that the other 241 acres (the article stated that the owner is looking at approximately 250 acre properties) will be used primarily as a buffer from the outside world.
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Post by paquebot on Mar 24, 2016 23:09:33 GMT
I wasn't surprised at the number because of a similar instance a few years ago. Several women were owners of a goat dairy with something like a couple thousand and hoped to double that in a year or so. Those numbers would definitely not be hobby pets! Until then I wasn't aware that milk goats were that big in Wisconsin. When I worked for Boumatic, there were tanks as small as 250 gallons and they were primarily for goat dairies. Now our biggest DKE5000 would not be big enough.
Martin
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Post by paquebot on Mar 25, 2016 14:05:13 GMT
After hearing about the NIMBY faction in Jefferson County, the company was given a better offer in another county. It's still going to proceed as planned but in a more welcoming location.
Martin
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Post by PNP Katahdins on Mar 25, 2016 16:40:13 GMT
I messed something up, let me try again.
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Post by PNP Katahdins on Mar 25, 2016 16:43:44 GMT
It's still going to proceed as planned but in a more welcoming location. Martin, do you know the new location? I hadn't hear that development. We are in a big dairy goat county and I'm curious about this latest update. You can PM me if you don't want to release the info publicly. Thanks! Peg |
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Post by PNP Katahdins on Mar 25, 2016 16:46:24 GMT
The photos in the article Martin linked to are recent ones from the Netherlands, taken by a Wisconsin dairy sheep specialist. I was surprised to see all the horns.
Peg
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Post by paquebot on Mar 25, 2016 22:40:15 GMT
PNP Katahdins,it was on front page of this morning's Wisconsin State Journal. New location not revealed. I knew that we had a lot of milk goats in Wiaconsin but not that we had the most. And the Belmont factory having to bring in milk from as far away as Missouri? Sell your sheep, switch to goats! Martin
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2016 0:56:47 GMT
I worked my tail off milking 250 head of Cows twice a day. I just can't picture milking this many Goats. I was making $50 a week, yes don't work out very much per hour. But I also worked before that on a Ranch as Cowboy making $55 a week. This was in early '70's.
Got to reading on what their planning. At one time I had 30 head of Goats I Loved them with this many Goats I can not see anything but bad come from it for the Goats 
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Post by PNP Katahdins on Mar 29, 2016 14:58:29 GMT
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Post by PNP Katahdins on Apr 7, 2016 15:49:38 GMT
Latest word is that they have made an offer on a property in Calumet County (east side of Lake Winnebago). I will try to find a link that works.
Peg
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Post by PNP Katahdins on Apr 7, 2016 15:56:44 GMT
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Post by shellymay on Apr 7, 2016 16:33:48 GMT
PNP Katahdins, Thanks for the link and glad its not going in here.....My sheep are staying and my rams don't pee on themselves and everything else they come into contact with  |
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Post by paquebot on Apr 7, 2016 20:38:34 GMT
Almost off topic, old milk cows ends up as bologna or hamburger. Wisconsin already has 44,000 milk goats. What are they becoming when their milking careers are over?
Martin
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Post by copperkid3 on Apr 7, 2016 21:06:56 GMT
Almost off topic, old milk cows ends up as bologna or hamburger. Wisconsin already has 44,000 milk goats. What are they becoming when their milking careers are over? Martin cabra vieja? |
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Post by Awnry Abe on Apr 8, 2016 3:22:40 GMT
Almost off topic, old milk cows ends up as bologna or hamburger. Wisconsin already has 44,000 milk goats. What are they becoming when their milking careers are over? Martin Protein of some form. Pet food, maybe. Fertilizer? Just speculating on what I would do with 9000 dead goats per year. |
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Post by paquebot on Apr 8, 2016 5:49:25 GMT
It would not be just those 9,000 but the other 44,000 to be replaced in the state. That just accounts for the females. There should be just as many male births of which only a small percentage would be kept for breeding purposes, just like cattle or sheep or hogs or chickens. With everything else there is a market for males in the food chain. I had a goat roast in Oslo, Norway, sausage from Cathy Cagle of HT, and BBQ ribs at a local East African picnic last summer. There's a lot of good meat all around me somewhere but I never see it. Lots of food people promoting goat cheese. Why aren't they promoting goat meat? I can't be the only one who likes it?
Martin
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Post by shellymay on Apr 8, 2016 12:20:37 GMT
Goats on this half Of US go to New Holland, PA and are sold to Ethnic groups as sheep and goat is their main meat, unlike us who eat cow/pig/chicken deer ect.....
All of our ram lambs that we sell that go to market ALL go to New Holland, PA... here is the link for the weekly prices of said sheep and goats if anyone cares to follow the prices each week.....they sell every Monday and average 1000 head or more EVERY Monday, during certain Ethnic holidays you will see numbers go up to 2000-3000 head sell on Monday....
www.ams.usda.gov/mnreports/ln_ls320.txt |
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Post by paquebot on Apr 8, 2016 18:34:46 GMT
Looked on Craigslist and only goat offered in this area was a farm taking orders for next fall at $6 a pound. (New Glarus location given.) Farther away, some pre-packaged at $3.50. I know that my Swahili friends got a live one and butchered it their traditional manner. Already looking forward to the next picnic to find out more details. (They are from the Milwaukee area.)
Martin
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Post by shellymay on Apr 8, 2016 19:16:50 GMT
paquebot, Meat goats are usually the breed of a Boer Goat so maybe if you search for that it will help you find more goats for sale, or maybe your land and IL are just way to flat for goats, as we all know goats LOVE to climb on anything and Ky is full of goats
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