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Post by copperkid3 on Jul 21, 2016 0:59:01 GMT
Just got home and went out to water the birds and spend some time with my goats and after having the dog hold a young buck
that I wanted a closer look at, I turned around and my oldest doe, Molly was standing there behind me and looked a bit bewildered.
And no wonder ~ she had a 3/4" in diameter piece of a branch about 10 inches long, sticking straight out from her chest cavity; just
about where the bottom of the ribs come together. Part of what appears to be possibly a portion of an intestine was also protruding a bit as well from the hole.
I wanted to immediately yank it out, but since she didn't appear to be visibly bleeding on the outside, and as it also felt embedded a bit more than I felt comfortable
on pulling without knowing how much more was inside her, it seemed more prudent to seek advice from the experts here, as to what to do next.
All the vets are closed for the day and she's lived a pretty long life up to now, so .....what say you all?
Lord only knows how she managed to do this.... just guessing here, but I'd have to say she was running along and stumbled and fell on it; impaling herself.
From the looks of things, at least a few hours ago.... hmmmm.....if I pull it out, the only antiseptic available is pint of 70% alcohol and then there's that hole that needs to be closed,
while getting her outsides back on the inside too. I'm not a seamstress and I seriously doubt she'd let me try what little skills I do have in that area (mending holey socks?)
P.S. That young buck that I was checking out, is Molly's only surviving triplet from this spring. Ironic isn't? Last year my favorite older doe had twins and then died the next day.
I ended up raising those orphan bottle babies and they are definitely my favs.....
HELP
Okay, just went back outside to check on her and took that pint of alcohol with me.....(okay, okay, it's really only 3/4 of a pint).
Anyway, at first I couldn't find her with the rest of the herd and then noticed that she'd gone off to be by herself. Evidently she's
doing okay at this point, as she wouldn't allow me near her now and as she walked, although she did so rather gingerly, she moved
along quite well. The stick apparently didn't punture a lung, so that's a relief,
but that "extra" stuff is still visible with about a 3" mass protruding.
It's starting to get dark; I need to do something.....or not?
So many people viewing this post, but there's not a doctor in the house to advise?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2016 1:28:05 GMT
Oh my goodness - that's scary. Does your vet have an after hours service that you can ring for advice? I would think it unlikely they don't have an emergency service (even though it might cost you some dosh). I know it's a bit way out there, but if you can't get help from the vet, perhaps you could try the local after hours medical centre, ambulance, fire brigade or A&E department at the hospital for some advice - at least on whether to try and secure the stick so it doesn't move until you can get to a vet, or try removing it. I'm sure that someone would try and help.
Please let us know how things work out. I, for one, will be on tenterhooks until I hear that she's OK again.
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Post by Use Less on Jul 21, 2016 1:44:18 GMT
The vet doesn't have an emergency number?? Are you acquainted with any vet techs, animal-rehabilitators or an animal shelter that would have a trained person? What kiwifarmgal said. Your goat can't wait.
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Post by barefootfarmer on Jul 21, 2016 1:52:59 GMT
Ok, here's what I would do. Secure your goat so she can't thrash around. If you don't want to pull it out- use loppers or something to trim that branch down- to keep it from catching on something else. You don't have iodine? If you have it, I'd squirt iodine all around the area. But leave enough of the branch so that a vet can use it to remove it if needed tomorrow. You really do need a vet if you want to try to save the goat.
To keep the area from getting more debris in the wound, use a solo dixie cup and duct tape to cover the trimmed piece. Or even a towel, secured loosely enough to not cause discomfort, but to keep the area clean.
Try to keep her secured, without tangling herself up- just enough so she's comfortable but can't get herself into a situation where the branch is pushed further into her chest.
Just what I would do. Keep us posted.
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Post by copperkid3 on Jul 21, 2016 2:14:58 GMT
The vet doesn't have an emergency number?? Are you acquainted with any vet techs, animal-rehabilitators or an animal shelter that would have a trained person? What kiwifarmgal said. Your goat can't wait. Sadly.....no. |
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Post by copperkid3 on Jul 21, 2016 2:19:50 GMT
Ok, here's what I would do. Secure your goat so she can't thrash around. If you don't want to pull it out- use loppers or something to trim that branch down- to keep it from catching on something else. You don't have iodine? If you have it, I'd squirt iodine all around the area. But leave enough of the branch so that a vet can use it to remove it if needed tomorrow. You really do need a vet if you want to try to save the goat. To keep the area from getting more debris in the wound, use a solo dixie cup and duct tape to cover the trimmed piece. Or even a towel, secured loosely enough to not cause discomfort, but to keep the area clean. Try to keep her secured, without tangling herself up- just enough so she's comfortable but can't get herself into a situation where the branch is pushed further into her chest. Just what I would do. Keep us posted. No iodine that I'm aware of.....although I do have a spray dispenser of Blu-Kote. Would that be as effective? The main problem now is, that it's completely dark out and she doesn't normally allow me to approach her..... as when I last tried. Apparently she approached me first to make me aware of the situation and when I freaked out and left her..... she gave up any hope on my helping her further. Who knows what goes on in a goat brain??? I'm going to try once more to catch her and remove the stick if possible; then sterilize the wound & try & tape something over it until morning. |
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Post by comfortablynumb on Jul 21, 2016 2:34:28 GMT
Betadine if you have any... soak all the wounds with it. Alcohol will cause her undue agony.
If that nicked a bowel, you're looking at peritonitis and that aint good.
Until a vet gets there, keeping it clean is the most important thing. Even flushing with clean water every now and then is better than nothing. Do not pour alcohol in that wound.
On the racetrack we used 30-1 clorox mix for emergency wound cleaning.
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Post by comfortablynumb on Jul 21, 2016 2:36:35 GMT
If you remove it, she could bleed to death or actually nick or tear a bowel. Your better to leave it and a vet can traq her and cut it out and inspect her insides for damage.
I'd leave it.... prune off the end as was suggested.
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Post by copperkid3 on Jul 21, 2016 3:23:43 GMT
Too late Numb.... 'surgery' has already been performed. Triage as best I could do under the circumstances.
She was hiding again, although I found her quickly enough beneath the inverted fiberglass satellite dish that they
love to use as a shelter. She wouldn't come out on her own, so had to send the dog in after her. And of course,
what's the first thing that he does? Notices that she's got a stick poking out of her and decides to try yanking or licking it!!! Stupid dog....
He finally minded my demands and bothered her enough, that she eventually came out and began walking away from me ... again. I kept talking
'nice' to her and I guess I wore her down and she allowed me to approach her and then lead her away from the herd resting area that has way too much manure.
Took her to the garden area where there was an old round bale spread out over 30 feet or so and then tipped her over in the cleanest area; being
careful not to have the stick hit anything and drive it in deeper. Had a tiny LED flashlight to help me see and somehow got the alcohol poured on it
and she didn't even wince. She's a pretty good girl when she's spread-eagle on her backside. The next part was trying to determine if I could get the stick out or not.
I tried several times to extract it without success; and she definitely was feeling it when I tried pulling, but didn't cry out at all. I was beginning to think that maybe
the impact of the initial fall, had broken it twice, as in taking a 90 degree break inside and that was what was hanging up, but then it turned a bit too freely and I
realized that something else was holding it....turns out that I twisted it slightly and then pulled and the piece of ligament or whatever that was holding it tight,
came away from the wood and it slid right out. The piece of branch was inside her approximately 3-4" of a 12" stick. My next step was to determine what the
protruding mass of flesh was, so I cleaned it by pouring alcohol over it and getting as much of the dirt & debris off and then try and re-insert it back where it belonged.
It certainly wasn't bowels or anything else that I was familiar with, so I finally determined that it was the stuff that holds that area around the rib cage and likely not too vital.
Took some doing, but after squirting it in one side and out the other, I managed to get it to stay down inside. Through it all, Molly was a trooper and never moaned or whimpered.....
although she did do some thrashing about and kicking of her feet when I tried getting the stick out without success.
Covered the wound area with a plastic bag and then taped over it multiple times with wrapping tape. Not sure that it will adhere much to her alcohol-soaked hide...but
it was all that I could find at the time. I'm keeping her on THIS side of the gate, away from the others for the night and will try to figure out some way to convey
her to the vets in the morning. Unfortunately, my front left brake pad is worn and dragging and it won't be until next Wednesday before I can get it fixed.
So it is what it is.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2016 3:37:48 GMT
Alcohol will hurt to much. Like some have said, use Betadine generously around the wound. Then apply the Blu-Kote. Apply gauze bandages to her flanks around the stick and then use an ace bandage or something to keep the bandages in place. Do not under any circumstances remove the stick unless you are planning to have a barbeque in the very near future. Keep her confined, but with enough room to move a bit and find a comfortable position to lay down if she wants.
If you have a pair of those large branch cutters try to cut all but about 2" of the length of the branch that is outside her chest. Do not use a saw or anything else that will make noise or vibrate. The noise may scare her and more damage can occur. The vibration from a saw may cause internal bleeding.
And get her to a vet. I would not try to remove the stick yourself. It will more than likely cause more damage than you are capable of handling.
ETA: There should not be any ligaments in that part of her body. Ligaments are found in joints and such. It may have been part of the diaphragm or muscle fascia.
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Post by mzgarden on Jul 21, 2016 4:15:40 GMT
Yuck, an impalement. For humans, we do not try to extract something of this size without advanced care, but that's not always possible.
You've extracted the stick and taken steps to clean and cover. You've separated her so she's not at risk for further injury -- those sound like good steps. As with humans, the risk from puncture wound is that dirt/bacteria have now been pushed into what was a closed clean environment. As the stick is removed and she is not showing immediate signs of shock or significant bleeding, the next concern becomes infection - from the impalement and from the open wound. The only thing I can think to add is to start an antibiotic - penicillin G or LA200 in advance of a wound infection.
Hope the vet can build on what you've done and your girl recovers quickly.
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Post by copperkid3 on Jul 21, 2016 12:56:50 GMT
Well.... she's still alive, up and active this morning ~ so the 'patient' survived the surgery! Spent the last 45 minutes phoning around in a nearly vain attempt to locate a vet that not only would treat her, but even knows how. My main goat vets just happened to have left town this a.m. to go to a family reunion, so no go there. They suggested another vet closer to me who ONLY has office hours on two days of the week and then, by appointment only! I've never taken my animals there, despite their being just 6 miles away and although I left a message on his emergency call-in, I seriously doubt I'll hear an answer... ever. Tried calling the regular vet clinic, who I knew would tell me that they "don't treat goats", but when she did, I reminded her of Dr. Pat, who had done so in the past in another goat emergency and she then said, "Well he's not in today, but I'll get in touch with him and have him call you." Mission accomplished and about 10 minutes later, had him on the phone and explained the situation. His advice was that I'd done well so far and that further surgery; i.e. sewing her back up, was NOT in her best interest, as the wound needed to heal and drain from the inside out. Told me to stop in to the clinic to pick up a tetanus shot and gave me a list of other antibiotics to put in the wound area and instructions for daily care until she heals. So I guess we'll give it a try and wait and see how she responds. She's up and around at least... keep praying. E.T.A. ~ I did find this site on-line that is a listing of vets around the country who specialize in treating goats; might want to put it somewhere on here as a "sticky" if it seems of any help. goats411.com/New/Goat-Veterinarians.html |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2016 13:35:46 GMT
copperkid3, that's great news. Well done on the 'surgery'!  So glad that things have stabilised and I hope that she just keeps getting better and better. Great that you could reach a vet and get his advice. You sure did a brilliant job in a very tricky situation. Impressive.
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Post by mzgarden on Jul 21, 2016 15:49:18 GMT
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Post by shellymay on Jul 21, 2016 16:46:09 GMT
So sorry this happened to your girl, Sounds like your approach worked out and I am happy for both of you for that  Praying that she does well with antibiotics and pull through completely  |
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Post by copperkid3 on Jul 21, 2016 19:40:41 GMT
copperkid3 , that's great news. Well done on the 'surgery'! So glad that things have stabilised and I hope that she just keeps getting better and better. Great that you could reach a vet and get his advice. You sure did a brilliant job in a very tricky situation. Impressive. to you dear..... Spent over 3 hours running around town trying to pick up supplies for treating the goat "post-op" ~ (amazing the things they teach you in these on-line vet skools where anyone and their brother can get a degree in less than a hour!) Anyway, I ended up having to go back to the vet's office twice, since they sent me to TSC to pick up things that aren't carried there.... (turns out that the vet didn't either, so they recontacted him and had him substitute prescriptions and they were able to supply me from their stock.) Finally got home and Molly had disappeared ....AGAIN! Did some looking around and found her resting in the shade of an old elevated rabbit hutch. After watering the birds again, I got the supplies together to do some 'doctoring' and found that my 'patient' had moved again, but this time she was grazing on the assorted plant life not afforded to the common goat who reside on the other side of the fence. And she didn't want to give up the free eats for me to start poking and prodding her boo-boo.... so we played chase the silly and apparently uninjured goat, around the garden area for awhile and finally she came along peaceably. Tipped her over onto the hay pile and amazingly enough, the plastic store bag with cellophane packing tape was still holding and doing its' job; i.e. keeping dirt and debris out of the wound area. Stripped it off and had to do a couple of double takes, as initially couldn't find the open hole!!! Pushing around through the hair finally revealed it and it was truly amazing to see.....a hole about 3 inches long and approximately 1 inch wide, but no blood and very little weeping of her juices that promote healing (the medical term escapes me at the moment). During the process of cleaning her up further, a few flies came buzzing around, but none landed and I quickly disinfected the area further, by generously pouring an amount of hydrogen peroxide into the opening. When after a few minutes, the foaming action ceased, I again cleaned off the surrounding area and began to put the antiseptic ointment into the wound and then a gauze pad over it; attaching it with duct tape. Somewhere in all that, I also managed to inject her into her inner rear leg muscle, a 1 ml of tetanus to help ward off possible infection from the stick and debris AND to give her 3 large pills orally. Figured the pills might be the hardest part in all that, but she took them all down ~ although she did try to sneak one out the side of her mouth and onto the ground before I caught her at it!!! Before we go to bed, will have to give 3 more and this regiment will continue for the next 9 days. Officially, (and strictly from my professional p.o.v.) I'm greatly encouraged at how she survived the initial impact of the stick and everything that has happened thereafter. Although the vet didn't charge me for the office visit minus the patient being present, or for his advice over the phone, I probably ended up spending what it would have cost me, if I'd been able to see him in person for the amount of supplies, etc. needed. Ahhh well, more than likely, I'll be stocked and prepped for another potential disaster in the future....and B.T.W., I'm hanging out my 'shingle' tomorrow and will be doing neutering of your young bucklings, at the bargain basement, low price of $5.00 per teste..... or two for $11.00..... THINK ABOUT IT. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2016 19:59:06 GMT
copperkid3, I apologise for my lack of respect in addressing you by your new title...   I'll be hanging out for updates over the next 9 days, but it sounds like it's all going really well so far. I laughed at your description of Molly trying to sneak a pill out the side of her mouth. Some of my sheep are like that when I drench them. You think you've got it all in and they've swallowed it, then you see this ooze coming out the sides of their mouths and you then have to massage their throat to make them get it down. THEN recalculate how much has come out and compensate with a bit more. Sneaky things those sheep and goats...
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Post by grannyg on Jul 21, 2016 22:14:25 GMT
Yes, when you live in the country, you will find those who will not treat your animals....you learn to do what you can, and luckily, she survived....and you learned.....we have all been there....or you have a vet tell you to just put your goat down as it is cheaper to buy another one......Hugs to you....Prayers for healing for that goat....
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Post by Mari-in-IN on Jul 22, 2016 23:34:10 GMT
copperkid3, Don't have goats but have been following your thread with great interest! I just love happy endings... Good for you! You strike me as a good provider with the animals you have in your charge... Often you do amuse me as well and I thank you for that! Take care, Mari
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Post by copperkid3 on Jul 23, 2016 0:04:28 GMT
Because she's a BIG girl, she usually does what she wants around the place....
Which is what happened last night, when I left her on this side of the gate by herself in the garden.
She didn't like being by herself and besides she still has a boy named Mike who refuses to be weaned, that probably
affected her thinking too....so she broke out and rejoined the herd and I discovered her absence this morning, along with
the bandage covering that she'd managed to pull off as well. So there was a big goat wandering around with an open chest wound somewhere.
Fortunately, she showed up a short time later, but didn't want to come back to the barn right then....so went back to get some goat persuaders (sweet feed)
but before I had a chance to employ its' use, the entire herd decided to come back up the hill and see what Daddy was up to. Then they discovered the open gate
to the garden, which of course leads to the stored round bales on the other side of the barn that are unrestricted to goat access (NOW) and the race was on.....
Managed to grab Molly and lead her a short distance to where my triage is set up, and at the same time, order the dog to get the rest of the ravenous horde back to
where they belonged. Amazingly enough, there was little dirt or debris in or around the open wound area, which looked in good condition. Nonetheless, I poured a liberal
amount of hydrogen peroxide in and let it do its' foaming thing. Once the action settled down, I wiped it off, squirted the antiseptic goop in the hole and then placed
another gauze pad over the wound. Since the previous plastic bag that I'd used at the beginning had done such a good job, I decided to go that route again, but I figured
that there was still too much material that could catch on things....so cut the bag in half and then halfed each of those, which gave me a piece of plastic material
about 7" x 10", which I then secured over the pad and attached with strips of duct tape. Not very pretty, but it seems to work, which is all that matters. I've also
considered the possible use of not using duct tape at all, but maybe taking a roll of Saran Wrap and encircle her chest area with it... although it would be a bit hot to
wear in this heat. Popped a pill down her throat and waited, but saw no swallow action, so snuck a peek and it was still down there!!! She promptly spit it out, which
was quickly retrieved and reinserted a bit more directly and which she reluctantly finally swallowed. Decided to hurry the next two and jammed them both in at once and
hopefully they arrived at the intended destination. My help had arrived and I had to go....but when I came home hours later, the makeshift bandage covering was still in
place. Will be going out shortly to administer the second dosage of 3 more pills. Oh the joy.....for the BOTH of us.
E.T.A. ~ Well, that went much better than even I had hoped for. Took the end sliced piece off a new loave of wheat bread and rolled the pill inside a corner of a piece of it;
mashing down the edges to contain the hidden medicine. She gingerly sniffed it....realized it was a "special treat" and wolfed it down before anyone else might see her prize!
Did the same with the next two pills as well and then rewarded her with the last quarter of the remaining piece of bread. She crunched them down, but it's the going down part
that matters most. Although she'd taken to lounging under the fiberglass topper, the plastic bandage cover is still in place and doing its' job. The things we do for our goats....
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Post by comfortablynumb on Jul 23, 2016 1:54:03 GMT
Not to sound like a broken record but.... you really shouldnt be pouring peroxide in an open wound. Peroxide kills delicate regenerating tissue. The best thing is to spray bedatine on it liberally and often. Not only does it coat and protect the tissue but it repels flies.
In the short term peroxide is probably fine, but once the wound is clean and healing, peroxide will keep it from healing up. Trust me.
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Post by copperkid3 on Jul 23, 2016 2:41:01 GMT
Not to sound like a broken record but.... you really shouldnt be pouring peroxide in an open wound. Peroxide kills delicate regenerating tissue. The best thing is to spray bedatine on it liberally and often. Not only does it coat and protect the tissue but it repels flies. In the short term peroxide is probably fine, but once the wound is clean and healing, peroxide will keep it from healing up. Trust me. I'd never heard that before, so no broken record... preach on! Thanks for upgrading my doctoring skills....I'm always learning. I'll look into getting the be Ta Dine a.s.a.p. |
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Post by comfortablynumb on Jul 23, 2016 3:18:11 GMT
Oky doky
Mix the betadine with some sugar until it is like peanut butter. Stuff it in the hole. Nothing bad will grown in sugardine paste, and it speeds up the healing. You'll be impressed by the results.
Maryanne the cow last week or 2 ago snapped the end of her toe off (dont ask we have no idea how she did that) and she had a hunk of corium sticking out. She was nealrly dead lame on that foot. We cleaned it as best we could (cows dont cooperate well but she does ok) it was still a bit cruddy but, we packed the open end of her toe with sugardine paste, stuck a betadine soaked pad on it and a wrapped the toe up in vet wrap.
In a couple days she was not sore at all, and the exposed corium had keritonized over nicely. Clean as a whistle.
When I had my old horse he popped an abcess out of the top of his hoof, and I had to carve out the bottom to clean it all out, it was a bloody mess. Once it was washed out I packed it with sugardine paste and bandaged it up, and put a boot on. He went from dead lame to walking normal in about 4 days. You could watch the new pink skin grow on hos coronary band and heal the hole shut, never a trace of infection.
Bactria can't live in the goop... and if its a little dirty in the wound, the goop will clean it. I'm not sure how, but Ive seen infected necrotic wounds on racehorses slathered with it and a few days later when the bandage is changed it looks and smells like a fresh wound. Amazing goop.
Sorry I had not though of suggesting it earlier. Don't be afraid to pack in an open wound, its probably the best thing to pack in an open wound.
Ive seen horses road rash wounds painted with the stuff and no bandage. (kinda hard to bandage a shoulder or any part of a horse except a leg) Once you see the results you kinda wonder why everyone doesnt use it.
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Post by copperkid3 on Jul 23, 2016 4:04:05 GMT
Oky doky Mix the betadine with some sugar until it is like peanut butter. Stuff it in the hole. Nothing bad will grown in sugardine paste, and it speeds up the healing. You'll be impressed by the results. Maryanne the cow last week or 2 ago snapped the end of her toe off (dont ask we have no idea how she did that) and she had a hunk of corium sticking out. She was nealrly dead lame on that foot. We cleaned it as best we could (cows dont cooperate well but she does ok) it was still a bit cruddy but, we packed the open end of her toe with sugardine paste, stuck a betadine soaked pad on it and a wrapped the toe up in vet wrap. In a couple days she was not sore at all, and the exposed corium had keritonized over nicely. Clean as a whistle. When I had my old horse he popped an abcess out of the top of his hoof, and I had to carve out the bottom to clean it all out, it was a bloody mess. Once it was washed out I packed it with sugardine paste and bandaged it up, and put a boot on. He went from dead lame to walking normal in about 4 days. You could watch the new pink skin grow on hos coronary band and heal the hole shut, never a trace of infection. Bactria can't live in the goop... and if its a little dirty in the wound, the goop will clean it. I'm not sure how, but Ive seen infected necrotic wounds on racehorses slathered with it and a few days later when the bandage is changed it looks and smells like a fresh wound. Amazing goop. Sorry I had not though of suggesting it earlier. Don't be afraid to pack in an open wound, its probably the best thing to pack in an open wound.
Ive seen horses road rash wounds painted with the stuff and no bandage. (kinda hard to bandage a shoulder or any part of a horse except a leg) Once you see the results you kinda wonder why everyone doesnt use it. Makes a lot of sense.... I've been concerned about other debris/dirt/manure getting into this gaping hole in her chest, but if the good stuff is already there and occupying this "hollow", then it stands to reason, that it's better than what I've been attempting to do. Don't get me wrong; I'll still do the daily checking/changing of the pad bandage, but now it will be with the object of keeping the good stuff in, as well as making sure the bad stuff stays out. Thanks for the tip. |
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Post by comfortablynumb on Jul 23, 2016 13:55:37 GMT
Id be concerned about what got introduced into her chest cavity that might be setting up a deep infection.
There is really no way to get that out unles you open her up and clean it, but if she isnt sick by now she probably dodged a bullet there.
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Post by AD in WNC on Jul 24, 2016 15:15:59 GMT
Just a couple of ideas: I read somewhere that corn was 'crack' for goats. If I put a couple of handfuls of cracked corn in a white bucket and shook it, my goats would come running. Much easier than chasing goats and it worked every time.
Second,there is this stuff at Tractor Supply called Goat Drench. Its in a pump bottle and is good for 'shock'. I believe its a vitamin based pick me up. I used it to help the animal 'fight off whatever they got into this time'. At least I felt like I was doing something for my goat.
Third, because Goats Will Be Goats, I used to have a powder that stopped wound bleeding (think blood spurting from a broken horn). It also came from Tractor Supply, but I don't remember what they called it. It worked really well, and was an absolute life saver the one time we needed it (and nothing was open).
Fourth, you might try looking for a 'large animal' vet. My vet specialized in horses, made house calls, had an emergency after hours service line. We did have an emergency on Sunday afternoon once where the vet ended up bringing her attorney husband as an assistant. He and I both had to assist, but the goat did really well. It was an amusing vet visit.
I'm glad Molly is doing well!
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Post by comfortablynumb on Jul 24, 2016 16:43:45 GMT
I wonder if drenching a sick goat with red bull would do any good
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Post by AD in WNC on Jul 24, 2016 16:50:10 GMT
I was thinking of a B vitamin drench, but RedBull would certainly give them a jolt of caffeine and speed up their heart rate. That could be a good thing provided they didn't grow real wings!  |
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Post by copperkid3 on Jul 24, 2016 18:16:38 GMT
I was thinking of a B vitamin drench, but RedBull would certainly give them a jolt of caffeine and speed up their heart rate. That could be a good thing provided they didn't grow real wings! Yeah.... you could probably kiss all that fancy fence work goodbye! And more than likely, I'd be in trouble with the FAA instead of animal control. |
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Post by shellymay on Jul 24, 2016 20:55:13 GMT
I am so happy to hear that she is doing fine and hasn't skipped a beat on being a goat, (garden/fence)  I am assuming the pills are some kind of antibiotics?  if so great. You have shown courage/patients/passion, you deserve a at a boy |
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So glad that things have stabilised and I hope that she just keeps getting better and better. Great that you could reach a vet and get his advice. You sure did a brilliant job in a very tricky situation. Impressive.
I am assuming the pills are some kind of antibiotics?
if so great. You have shown courage/patients/passion, you deserve a at a boy