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Post by bluemingidiot on Dec 18, 2018 23:03:26 GMT
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Post by bluemingidiot on Dec 22, 2018 5:47:24 GMT
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Post by AD in WNC on Dec 24, 2018 0:49:12 GMT
Geez, I hope not! We have already had a very wet year. Polar vortex and wet equal far too much snow! We had 10-22 inches the first week of December. I really don't like being trapped at home by that much snow. Or trapped in the house because I hate putting on so many layers of clothing that I can't bend my arms.
Could we hope that they are wrong?
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Post by paquebot on Dec 24, 2018 7:20:01 GMT
Never get worried about something like this. Nobody ever was concerned until someone gave a winter storm a name. It's something that we've been dealing with forever and just live with it. Best idea is to just look at a caldendar and predict winter for about 4 months and prepare for what has been happening for many thousands years. Eskimoes dealt with it every year. For me, just prepare to put on another layer of clothing. Bring it on!!!!!
Martin
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Post by bluemingidiot on Dec 24, 2018 23:52:30 GMT
Big boxes ran out of hydrants covers last bad cold spell. We are not as prepared for severe cold as other areas.
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Post by princessferf on Jan 4, 2019 18:17:35 GMT
Never get worried about something like this. Nobody ever was concerned until someone gave a winter storm a name. It's something that we've been dealing with forever and just live with it. Best idea is to just look at a caldendar and predict winter for about 4 months and prepare for what has been happening for many thousands years. Eskimoes dealt with it every year. For me, just prepare to put on another layer of clothing. Bring it on!!!!! Martin That's why God made wool socks and hot tea.
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Post by mogal on Jan 7, 2019 12:53:40 GMT
It was in the low 60's here in Missouri on Saturday and we had a high of 58o yesterday. This is NOT January in Missouri. I'm afraid our fruit trees will break dormancy far too early. This happened back in '07 when the trees were in full glorious bloom in late March. Mid April brought 3 nights in the teens and NOBODY well south down into Arkansas across to Georgia had any fruit. Nope. I don't like winter particularly but would prefer it to come when it's supposed to come.
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Post by princessferf on Jan 7, 2019 16:50:44 GMT
It was in the low 60's here in Missouri on Saturday and we had a high of 58o yesterday. This is NOT January in Missouri. I'm afraid our fruit trees will break dormancy far too early. This happened back in '07 when the trees were in full glorious bloom in late March. Mid April brought 3 nights in the teens and NOBODY well south down into Arkansas across to Georgia had any fruit. Nope. I don't like winter particularly but would prefer it to come when it's supposed to come. I agree. We typically have a "January thaw" here in Wisconsin, but I don't want it to last more than a day. Last year our fruit trees were all kinds of confused and I'm hoping that this year is more "normal".
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Post by solargeek on Jan 7, 2019 17:44:58 GMT
princessferf , paquebot , First 7.5" snow, then deep cold (all good here with those 2 weather events as this is WI in January).
Now rain, ice, more rain. 40s, some 30s at night. More ice. More 40s. 800' driveway is a NIGHTMARE and if we put down salt, it would just wash off in the heavy rains.
The end result is we had to cancel our LONG AWAITED delivery (by truck) of a new electric recliner sofa we ordered in early October. Our furniture is from 2005 and has been moved 3 times and had heavy use. It's a mess.
When my leg was injured this summer, I now have to put it straight up and out everyday for varying times pretty much forever unless I get a knee replacement. The sofa is so that I don't have to do this in our bed every day sometimes 3 times a day. Kind of anti-social....
But the truck would not make it down our driveway. Re-scheduled and hoping better driveway weather.
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Post by susannah on Jan 7, 2019 18:11:08 GMT
solargeek , I was so jealous of the 7.5 inches of snow you got, but I know how the rain - and ice - destroys good snow. So sorry for the delay in your recliner couch and I hope the weather gets better for you so the couch can be delivered soon! We've had a crazy winter (so far). Often too warm, less snow that normal, and on the few occasions we get more than an inch of snow at a time, it's followed by freezing rain, then rain, then everything turns to ice. Like today - we woke up to four inches of new snow. And got outside ASAP so my husband could take the snow thrower to our long (but not as long as your) driveway, and I took a shovel to the wrap around deck. Because we knew what was coming, and we were right. As we were finishing up outside, the snow turned to a very cold rain. Which it's still doing. And when the temperature drops tonight/tomorrow, the skating rink formerly known as our road will have yet another layer of ice added to it. I love snow. I love cold weather - heck, we moved 250 miles further north when we retired because we ARE fans of cold and snow. What we're not fans of is ice. Sigh.
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Post by paquebot on Jan 7, 2019 18:18:20 GMT
What we are having now is what typically happens a little later in the month, the "January thaw". Getting from Point A to Point B is equally important to some animals. It is when male raccoon head out to visit the females in their dens. Their tails get loaded with slush and later freeze. Result is often a bobtail coon. Shot a number of them during my coon-hunting days and all but one were males. All are safe to do their thing this year and not worry about losing their tails.
Martin
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Post by bluemingidiot on Jan 8, 2019 5:57:04 GMT
A large number a raccoons become road kill this time of year.
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Post by bowdonkey on Jan 20, 2019 14:20:08 GMT
-26 this morning. There will be windchills around -30 - -40. We called off a weekend ice fishing trip when we heard the forecast a few days ago. A good time for watching hockey though. If you're not familiar with the "better" indoor hockey arenas, in the spectator areas you can wear regular clothes. Nothing heavy or insulated.
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Post by Woodpecker on Jan 20, 2019 16:07:10 GMT
Heavy rain stopped around 9 a.m. it's now 38 outside & by evening it's going down to 9 degrees. That's the coldest we've had here in a couple of years. All the rain is going to turn to ice on the trees and all my large bushes will be bent down low....Yak track time!
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Post by bluemingidiot on Jan 20, 2019 18:45:49 GMT
It was 29° this morning. Only suppose to get up to the mid-50s this afternoon. Brrrr…!
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Post by bluemingidiot on Jan 30, 2019 0:23:09 GMT
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Post by farmerjack on Jan 30, 2019 2:58:04 GMT
You folks living in these cold areas, please take care of yourselves and your animals. We need each and everyone to come thru this in fine shape.
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Post by bluemingidiot on Jan 30, 2019 11:53:04 GMT
It is 38° at 5:50 am. The artic cold appears to have veered to the east. Mother Nature always did like us better.
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Post by Mari-in-IN on Jan 30, 2019 13:21:16 GMT
I checked at 7:40 AM and it was -15.7° out. Now, at 8:20AM it is -16.3°... Of course it's windy - calling for gusts as high as 30MPH and wind chills down to -45° today. My coops are hanging at 24-27° with heat lamps. I'm sure going to be glad when this is over... This type of weather is a bit unusual for us... Occasionally the house is making creepy noises - that is what woke me up this AM. God willing the sun will keep shining today and help those coop temps! ~Mari
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Post by themotherhen on Jan 30, 2019 13:35:39 GMT
Wind chill will put our temperature down to -40° today. There are warnings that even ten minutes outside can cause frostbite and all the schools are closed around us. I remember the last time it was this cold here, I was in high school. School wasn't canceled because it was time for midterm exams. It was so cold when I was walking home, my Mom left work and picked me and a few friends up. She never did that except for that day, we walked in all weather.
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Post by susannah on Jan 30, 2019 15:19:22 GMT
It was -23F when I got up this morning. That's cold, even by northern Wisconsin standards - although not the coldest I've ever experienced. (And yes, we live here by choice). The school districts have cancelled classes for both today and tomorrow. Our daily walks in the woods have been put on hold until Friday at least, and I'm not planning to leave the house today except to walk down to the road to get the mail. I don't think there'll be any mail delivered today, but I didn't pick up yesterday's mail and I know there's some in the mailbox. Or I'll decide that since it sat there two days already, another day isn't going to hurt. Yeah, that sounds better.
We were out and about a lot yesterday, but it was only maybe -10 during the day. Layers and warm clothes are our friends, especially in the colder weather! Leggings under jeans for me, flannel lined jeans for my husband. Long sleeve t-shirts under sweaters under vests, warm jackets over all that, mittens, HATS, boots and did I mention mittens? And scarves.
A few years ago, we had a winter with a record number of days where the temperature fell below zero - 68 of them. I think that was the year the term "polar vortex" became a part of more peoples vocabularies.
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Post by dustawaits on Jan 30, 2019 18:09:13 GMT
8* this morning, dropped to 4*but now at noon it is 16*! Cat only stayed out 10-15 minutes. Pup was out for an hour. But the way she flies around , she probably never felt the cold.
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Post by Mari-in-IN on Jan 30, 2019 18:20:33 GMT
8* this morning, dropped to 4*but now at noon it is 16*! Cat only stayed out 10-15 minutes. Pup was out for an hour. But the way she flies around , she probably never felt the cold. You are fortunate! Our dog was out this AM for about 1-2 minutes and was limping her way back to the house due to the cold! We are now up to -7.8° from a low of -16.3° this AM - but since the sun is shining my coops have gone up to 35-36° from 24-27° this AM... bring on that sunshine!! ~Mari ETA - Ya wanna know what's really nuts?! They are calling for a high of 53° on Monday! I'll have to dig out my tank tops and shorts!
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Post by mogal on Jan 30, 2019 22:12:51 GMT
8* this morning, dropped to 4*but now at noon it is 16*! Cat only stayed out 10-15 minutes. Pup was out for an hour. But the way she flies around , she probably never felt the cold. You are fortunate! Our dog was out this AM for about 1-2 minutes and was limping her way back to the house due to the cold! We are now up to -7.8° from a low of -16.3° this AM - but since the sun is shining my coops have gone up to 35-36° from 24-27° this AM... bring on that sunshine!! ~Mari ETA - Ya wanna know what's really nuts?! They are calling for a high of 53° on Monday! I'll have to dig out my tank tops and shorts! It was -9o when I got up, -5o when I went to tend the animals and that takes me close to 2 hrs. Right now it's snowing again, temp's +3o. Like you, Mari-in-IN, it's supposed to be unseasonably warm starting THURSDAY through the weekend. We've got to get more firewood split. It's out there in sections, just waiting for us. I say I'm southern by birth and Missourian by the Grace of God but this is making me rethink selling out as DH has mentioned a time or twenty, buying a fifth wheel and following more comfortable weather all year. We're still young enough to do that sort of thing but not for many years.
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Post by spacecase0 on Jan 31, 2019 1:28:20 GMT
After wandering around do polar vortexes return home? Do polar vortexes die? If so, how long do they live? they are called polar vortexes because that is where they normally are. in the summer they are facing the sun and get a magnetic connection from the sun. All this magnetic energy keeps the vortex powerful and small (it stays at the pole then). that magnetic energy will switch to the other pole when winter shows up, this is the reason why the seasons are delayed by 1/4 year when compared to just visible solar energy hitting an area. now the issue is that the sun is putting out less energy lately so there is less magnetic energy to keep the vortexes at the poles, this leads to harsher winters in the middle latitudes (the poles are actually warmer, and the tropics are unchanged) to add to this, the earth's magnetic field is fading, it is in the middle of a reversal, but the poles don't spin around while reversing, they collapse in on themselves. this leads to something like 8 or 16 (I forgot what one) new poles that will last about 100 years, they will be the new connection points for the magnetic energy for the sun. so if the solar output continues to stay low, we may be looking at an ice age, and a messed up one at that. in case you want to track the solar output that relates to this topic, look here spaceweatherarchive.com/2018/09/27/the-chill-of-solar-minimum/that solar output also fluffs up the atmosphere if it is high, this gives more room for weather to happen in. and that additional room makes for more mild weather. we will likely know in about 2040 if it will get better from the low solar output, and if not then, then we will know in about 2160 as the end result of the earth magnetic shift will be known edit: I have known all this for at least 20 years now, it is why I moved to where I moved to. there are areas that get better weather when this happens.
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