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Post by dw on Sept 20, 2019 14:47:50 GMT
I bought these new pretty lids...I use them on special things for Christmas. Got them yesterday and they are one piece, says good for canning. Has anyone used these?
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Post by feather on Sept 20, 2019 15:13:42 GMT
I haven't but that doesn't mean I wouldn't. What brand are you talking about, and how is the price, and do they come with instructions or have instructions online?
I haven't looked into them, but there is a vendor, Fillmore that has all kind of jar lids, types, costs. From just reading up on it, many of the European countries use 1 piece lids, and that's a lot of people.
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Post by Tim Horton on Sept 20, 2019 18:57:58 GMT
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Post by kkbhf on Sept 20, 2019 20:38:57 GMT
I haven't heard of Hot Fill per se; there is Hot Pack vs. Cold Pack when canning, maybe that's what they mean.
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Post by dw on Sept 20, 2019 21:39:28 GMT
Just went to get the box...orchard road canning caps and the directions are just like regular 2 piece lids.
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Post by Cabin Fever on Sept 20, 2019 22:24:44 GMT
The only issue I would have with a one-piece canning lid is the same issue I have with leaving the rings on the processed jars during storage. Oftentimes, some of the jar's contents can boil causing some of the contents to leak between the jar rim and lid. This stuff often can get stuck in the threads of the ring. If you leave the rings on during storage, you can find spoiled gunk near the rim of the jar that was trapped in the rings threads. I would think one could have the same issue with a one-piece lid. Stuff that has leaked can get trapped in the threads of the one-piece cap.
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Post by Tim Horton on Sept 21, 2019 18:30:52 GMT
After asking Sweetie, and doing a bit more search, it would seem the one piece lid is a common thing in Europe, Australia, New Zealand, and likely other places.
There is also a canning jar with a "REX" and another name type lid with no thread on the jar neck for a ring. The lid, glass or Tattler style, being held on by spring clips.
There also seems a line of jars with longer threaded necks that take a deeper ring to accommodate a thicker glass, or other reusable lid.
More confusion to add to the confusion I'm already suffering.... Uff-Daa
Info, experience, thoughts ??
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Post by feather on Sept 21, 2019 19:05:27 GMT
In an effort to streamline the process of canning for me, and to keep costs as low as possible, I'm not against alternate lids of any kind.
What drives me is ease of availability, and cost.
If something became available, besides tattler and ball/kerr/bernardin/walmart lids, at an improved lower cost, better than what I can find here, (or amazon or online seller) I'd give them a try for sure.
I'm still using tattler and kerr/ball/bernardin/walmart lids. I have about 100 of each tattler in regular and wide mouth sizes. At this point, I'd like to stock up on those 50 or so at a time when I find them on sale.
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Post by Ozarks Tom on Sept 22, 2019 19:04:19 GMT
We stick with what we know works, Ball/Kerr/Tattler. We figure there's way too much time, cost, energy spent in preparing the contents to experiment. Probably being too conservative, but I don't go to casinos either.
We did an inventory on how many jars we have, and their neck sizes. Then we bought twice as many Ball/Kerr lids.
We had a bad experience with Golden Harvest jars bursting in the pressure canner, what few we have are relegated to water bath only. We may have just gotten a bad batch, but it's that casino thing again.
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Post by Tim Horton on Sept 23, 2019 5:53:46 GMT
We had a bad experience with Golden Harvest jars bursting in the pressure canner, what few we have are relegated to water bath only. We may have just gotten a bad batch.............
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe a bad batch.... But it seems there are more "bad batches" in Golden Harvest jars than you would think... I imagine you will find more not so good experiences than good experiences with them. And like said, if truth be known a lot of the good experiences were water bath only. We also only use them for storage, and give away products.
A good while ago, when I checked, it seems Golden Harvest is a China product. I'm going to put 2 and 2 together on that info and experience in judging the overall usefulness of that product.
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Post by karenbc on Oct 1, 2019 20:07:29 GMT
I'm part of a Facebook group called Canning Rebels...so you know ahead of time I don't always follow established rules...being the rebel I am. So, I'm using one piece lids to can the apple juice marathon I'm currently working on. My one piece lids are the ones that come off the spaghetti sauce that is sold in the Atlas Mason jars. Or any other metal one piece lid with the inner silicone/rubber. I gently simmer the lids, and pop them on the jars of hot juice before putting in the water bath. The majority of them seal up perfectly. The jars canned this way open with a loud POP from a good seal. As I say, I don't always follow rules, so please don't give me a blast and tell me I'm going to kill my family.  |
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Post by feather on Oct 1, 2019 20:35:43 GMT
karenbc, I'm a rule follower for the most part but I can't tell you the number of times I've made mistakes. Canning rebels. I like it.
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Post by dw on Oct 5, 2019 21:15:33 GMT
When I bought these pretty lids, I thought they were regular 2 piece. I haven't canned anything in them. I, too, always take the rings off. When I gift something, I then put a ring back on them. I am making Kahula for xmas so I might put it in a blue jar with these lids. My sis gifted me with a lot of the new blue jars.
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Post by karenbc on Oct 6, 2019 1:17:21 GMT
Nice sis dw! Those blue jars are pretty.
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Post by farmchix on Oct 6, 2019 9:02:27 GMT
Are they metal? I would worry about the rust if they are. I throw away some rings (or use them for jars that aren't going in the canner) due to rust.
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