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Post by wally on Jan 9, 2020 15:45:21 GMT
Pretty sure I and my employer paid for my social security
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Post by Woodpecker on Jan 9, 2020 16:33:27 GMT
Here in NY they send out a form to be filled out. It's been so long I really don't remember all the questions...but I have no problem letting them know how many people live in my home. Any other questions that don't pertain to that, I wouldn't answer.
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Post by Skandi on Jan 9, 2020 17:30:54 GMT
I have done it in the UK, it's a pain but I found that by telling people that they only had to answer questions they felt comfortable with I got most people to respond. The worst bit was when someone misunderstood a question, and you MUST take their answer even if you know it is not what they meant.
In Britain you have to fill out the census there is a fine and it is applied, How can you expect there to be enough school places, or even enough power capacity in place if people don't know how many children are in the area? I bet all of you saying WAAA the gobernment is eeevviiill would complain if the power kept going out and your child/neighbours child couldn't make it into a school (or that school had classes of 50) Let me put it another way. you need to buy winter feed for your sheep, each sheep will eat one bale over winter. go buy the feed. But you're not allowed to go count your sheep so you know how many bales that is, oh no you might do something bad with that information. All of the information on the census is available elsewhere but putting it on a form allows it to be accessed faster and cheaper and without digging into every person, which I'm sure would dig up more information than a simple census. The information on toilets etc is to see if areas are improving or if they should be targeted with funds for something specific.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2020 18:01:11 GMT
Two views big government
And small government
Count the people denote citizenship done
Worked for Mary and Joseph
I am a small government supporter. And I feel I have more personal responsibility to solve issues in my life verses expectation the government needs to determine what will be done in my personal life.
Education is a local need and not a national issue till Carter
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Post by midtnmama on Jan 9, 2020 19:18:41 GMT
I have done it in the UK, it's a pain but I found that by telling people that they only had to answer questions they felt comfortable with I got most people to respond. The worst bit was when someone misunderstood a question, and you MUST take their answer even if you know it is not what they meant. In Britain you have to fill out the census there is a fine and it is applied, How can you expect there to be enough school places, or even enough power capacity in place if people don't know how many children are in the area? I bet all of you saying WAAA the gobernment is eeevviiill would complain if the power kept going out and your child/neighbours child couldn't make it into a school (or that school had classes of 50) Let me put it another way. you need to buy winter feed for your sheep, each sheep will eat one bale over winter. go buy the feed. But you're not allowed to go count your sheep so you know how many bales that is, oh no you might do something bad with that information. All of the information on the census is available elsewhere but putting it on a form allows it to be accessed faster and cheaper and without digging into every person, which I'm sure would dig up more information than a simple census. The information on toilets etc is to see if areas are improving or if they should be targeted with funds for something specific. Thank you Skandi. Refusing to answer the census isn't going to get anyone smaller government. It will mean that YOUR taxes will go to ANOTHER locale, thus putting your family, friends and neighbors in a disadvantage.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2020 19:52:14 GMT
Not everything is about funding with smaller government. Personal constitutional right to privacy matters a great deal to many who refuse to answer what type of cell phone, number of beds, number of rooms, magazines read....not a government need!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2020 20:11:51 GMT
Goodness, you're full of bile and anger! Planning on donating your social security check to the NRA, then are you? You DO realize you asked for opinions, right? Did you think everyone here was going to say they LOVED the census and the people who take it? Everyone has different experiences that mold their views and opinions. None of us have the right to tell someone else what to think or "feel". You want everyone to agree with you that govt is great and we should do everything that it says we should do. There are those of us who value the right to privacy and will fight to keep as much of it as we can. The government is supposed to work for us, not the other way around. I see you had to take it to personal attacks now, just like liberals who have nothing to add to the discussion and resort to name calling and personal insults. The masks just keep coming off, don't they?
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Post by midtnmama on Jan 9, 2020 20:51:12 GMT
I understand about privacy issues, but some of the questions have legitimate reasons for being asked. I live in a rural area that due to the mountains means that many students cannot get internet. This means they are at a disadvantage to other students who can do their homework, upload assignments, upload new progams to their school issued IPADS. Most school systems use ipads instead of textbooks now because the information is changing so fast in many areas. Knowing who has access to internet or cell phones is important to providing services where they are needed. Most jobs are applied for using the internet now and many jobs require you to have a smart phone and internet to get your shift schedule, your pay, etc... Internet access in a rural area is important and supported by data such as this census.
Asking about toilets and running water :this data is used for emergency planning, to determine the level of substandard housing that may need to be addressed. Again, many rural areas in the south were without electricity and running water well into the 1950s and some into the 1960s when the Tennessee Valley Authority brought electricity to many areas that were too sparsely inhabited to affordably bring rural electricity to them. I am grateful for the Tennessee Valley Authority and what they have done for my family. I do not consider these government employees to be "sucking at the teat of big government." Some of these questions were added to the census in the 1940s to help bring electricity to rural communities. Imagine what jobs couldn't happen in these areas before that time because there was no electricity. There wasn't telephone access before that time either.
I am also grateful for the emergency services that had the data they needed to provide emergency services for floods, tornadoes and fires--all of which have had devastating effects in the last few years in this area of the country. I'm glad they know how much aid to bring to an area because at least some answer the questions on their census. They are not mind readers.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2020 21:19:26 GMT
Substandard housing is kinda personal responsibility. With many options to resolve the fundamental hygiene needs and wants.... I want a bath but I can live with a shower. I do just fine solving a lack of a bathroom. Technically I have a bathroom.. Just no plumbing. I am waiting till I have earn the funds to deal with it. How is it an emergency planning issue....help me understand that. I live rural enough that the above issue is pretty common. Math, history, English have been pretty much stable for educational reality. Current events are for ever changing to become a new chapter of history Science have new developments but with a sound grasp of the foundations of each field of science books work well and are what our students use here. Oddly it is the deep rural schools with 10 to 19 students (not in a class but a school) that have some of the best internet. Less that 10students for 3years leads to the shutdown of a school in our state. As for emergency planning well in truly rural areas we do have local plans, that the emergency dept has worked with us. Emergency Management - Kenai Peninsula Borough www.kpb.us/emergency-mgmtThe OEM also coordinates the Local Emergency Planning Committee (LEPC) and Community Emergency Response Team (CERT) volunteer program. Live in the Kenai Peninsula Borough? Want to help during a disaster? No emergency response training, that's ok too! We want to help you get prepared and ready for next disaster
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