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Post by 1shotwade on Jun 3, 2015 11:25:28 GMT
I have been using hot powder for pests and it works great! deer,rabbit bugs. You name it,once you dust everything with this stuff,nothing is interested!
With that being said I have recently seen a couple videos where people have made a hot pepper spray. Now it makes sense to me that having ONE pest spray that works and is now chemical base is the way to go. Besides that you can grow it yourself. I have seen later videos from the same people and they are still using chemicals. This tells me their recipe was not effective.(one-3 peppers/1 gal water,other 12 peppers/1gal water)Beside this they used different varieties of hot peppers.
As stated the powder works great but drying and grinding is a pain.Anyone ever try this and have a working recipe or know how a person would go about developing one?My brother didn't have powder on hand so went to the store and mixed a bottle of hot sauce in water and burnt up his garden.(probably the vinegar) so I'm searching for one that will be effective and "plant safe"!
Any info please.
Wade
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Post by Bear Foot Farm on Jun 3, 2015 18:09:14 GMT
Pests eat peppers so I don't see it as being very effective for many things
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Post by 1shotwade on Jun 3, 2015 18:19:18 GMT
The hot pepper powder is all I've used for years,it's just a pain to prepare. Maybe it's just my pests but once applied and reapplies after each rain they go away. This includes insects,rabbit groundhog and deer. I never see anything eat hot pepper plants so matbe I'm just in an area that it works.
Wade
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Post by claytonpiano on Jun 4, 2015 23:57:16 GMT
Hot pepper spray mixed with dish soap has been effective for a long time. DH's grandmother used it and her garden was beautiful. The Japanese Beetles just ignore it and eat anyway. I hate Japanese Beetles.
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Post by Skandi on Jun 5, 2015 10:55:58 GMT
is hot powder just ground up chillies? if so go to a ethnic shop (or order online if it's too far) and buy some of their HUGE bags of cayene pepper. Not expensive and a lot less hassle than grinding it yourself. Though a blender should probably work, but use it outdoors!!
If it's something else.. tell me! I have deer pests here.
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Post by 1shotwade on Jun 5, 2015 12:18:35 GMT
Thanks Skandi ! I actually have about a gallon dried I can grind but it's really getting old. I just want to find the right recipe for liquid. It will be so much easier and faster. I know someone out there has come up with a good one but I can't locate them! LOL !
Wade
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Post by themotherhen on Jun 17, 2015 4:42:38 GMT
Wade, grind the peppers up fine in a blender, put the powder into a salt shaker. Dust the ground around the exterior border of your garden. The powder has to be applied again after rain. I have used it in the past, but have not used it in the garden this year because it has rained every 3 to 4 days. When it is this wet, it is too much to keep up with weeding, much less sprinkling anything :-) I am not complaining though, I am grateful for the rain. It is a blessing for sure. I have hauled water to my garden before, and I have only had to do that twice this year so far.
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Post by 1shotwade on Jun 17, 2015 12:53:18 GMT
That's about what I have been doing for year except I dust everything and again after each rain. Trouble is it is so time consuming. I want to go to a liquid that could be sprayed on which would eliminate the drying/grinding and also be faster to apply and get better coverage.
I have a gallon of powdered habanero now but am concerned that if the "mix" is too strong it will burn the plants.The only info I have been able to find was a mix on 12 habanero's(fresh) to one gallon of water.I suppose that is where I'll start and see just how much adjusting may be necessary.
Wade
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Post by themotherhen on Jun 17, 2015 18:02:35 GMT
I have never used liquid but it would probably go down faster than powder does. Good luck! Maybe if you just sprayed the ground around the plants?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2015 2:21:37 GMT
Wade, do you just soak the peppers in the water, or do you have to chop or puree?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2015 2:29:01 GMT
BTW - I have my first decent-sized garden this year, for me anyway. It's 180 square feet. I made my own concoction with Neem Seed Oil, water, and a little dab of dish detergent. I also sprinkled cayenne pepper around. Guess what? Some of my leaves got burned and some got eaten!
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Post by paquebot on Jun 18, 2015 4:55:20 GMT
There are probably ten-thousand or more "sure thing" recipes for upholding Man's desire to not share his gardens with other forms of life. To date, none are so good that the person who formulated it has gotten rich from the royalties and retired to Bermuda. The hot part of the recipes only work on life that can taste heat and that cancels out most bugs and birds. Best that one can do is find something effective against animals and then a separate one for insects. With animals, need only find a way to repel them. With insects, decision must be if aim is to kill or repel them. Killing them stops the problem right away. Repelling them means that they find something else to eat. If that something is what you also want to eat, back to square one. I make up my own concoction to keep the animals away but Jung's or WalMart will have what I need for the bugs.
Martin
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Post by 1shotwade on Jun 18, 2015 11:41:22 GMT
Wade, do you just soak the peppers in the water, or do you have to chop or puree? Up to this point I have only used the peppers in a powdered form. I've been doing this for a few years and find it to be effective against everything with the exceptions being I have never tried it on potato beetle or onion fly. Attached is a video clip of the use on groundhog that is where I will start at in an effort to go to a liquid spray. I have talked to Bobby and he indicated to me that the strength spray he made was not strong enough to repel "all" pests. Personally,my experience with the powder is just the opposite,as it seems to have repelled Deer,groundhog,rabbit,squirrel and all insect I have tried it on.The powder I use is Habanero,dried,and ground.It is applied in a "baby powder" type applicator. This process is very time consuming whereas if a solution in liquid form would cut down the time by at least 2/3s. I have one gallon of habanero powder made up now and it is VERY time consuming! To me this is all about finding something effective that I can produce from the home instead of being dependent on a company to produce it for me.This has absolutely nothing to do with being "organic" or any other P C attitudes. Wade www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fN2LTMRYgg |
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Post by 1shotwade on Jun 18, 2015 12:00:27 GMT
There are probably ten-thousand or more "sure thing" recipes for upholding Man's desire to not share his gardens with other forms of life. To date, none are so good that the person who formulated it has gotten rich from the royalties and retired to Bermuda. The hot part of the recipes only work on life that can taste heat and that cancels out most bugs and birds. Best that one can do is find something effective against animals and then a separate one for insects. With animals, need only find a way to repel them. With insects, decision must be if aim is to kill or repel them. Killing them stops the problem right away. Repelling them means that they find something else to eat. If that something is what you also want to eat, back to square one. I make up my own concoction to keep the animals away but Jung's or WalMart will have what I need for the bugs. Martin Martin-you got one on me there! I have no idea about insects and taste buds!What I do know is I have gardened well my whole life and now since the internet I find out there is a lot I don't know! The use of DE,compost tea,"insects only feed on unhealthy plant" on and on. What I do know is the powder "appears to work for me." As stated above,I am learning to be more self sufficient in the garden instead of relying on someone else to produce a produce for me.I do know the "powder" works on corn bore,cabbage worm and bean beetle and assume there are many other insects it will work on. Wade |
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Post by paquebot on Jun 18, 2015 13:48:59 GMT
If there is something which repels insects rather than killing them, then it would be something which masks the odor which they rely on to find potential food. In some companion planting, the repelling plant is one which emits a lot of odor more powerful than the one which it is protecting. The receptors on the insect are unable to sort out where their desired plant is. For that reason, garlic is often one of the ingredients in home recipes.
Martin
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