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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2015 15:33:20 GMT
A few questions for you all that don't use TP: 1. What do you put the used flannel (or whatever you use) in? Do you put bleach or anything in the bucket or whatever? 2. Do you use your flannels for a bowel movement? Do you put the used material in with the urine ones? 3. Do you wash the material like you would cloth diapers? 4. Do you wash the material with your regular clothes or linens? 5. Do you supply regular TP for guests? 6. Does the used cloths smell? 7. Do you buy material for use or just cut up old clothes? 8. Do any of you use a bidet or a squeeze bottle?
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Post by Daniel on Oct 16, 2015 20:27:25 GMT
I don't think I could ever go without TP, just the thought makes me cringe. We do have a bidet type toilet, it a TOTO and yes it was expensive. It really cuts down on the amount of TP, most paper goes in a trash can and not to the septic system.
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Post by farmer on Oct 16, 2015 20:34:22 GMT
We use "pee cloths" that I just cut up from an old towel. We have TP in the bathroom for poops. However, I have been known to use a damp "pee cloth" as a "poop cloth" at times. It is cleaner and I like it better. I just wash it briefly right in the bathroom sink using a tiny bit of dish soap and a scrubby brush that we used for the occasional poop in DS's training pants. It then goes right in the washer with the rest of our laundry. I should note that for my last two babies, we did NOT use diapers. Instead, I had waterproof training pants and learned their pee and poop cues. Youngest child is now 2 1/2 years old, and has been in padded gerber-typle, non water proof and/or regular underwear since last summer. Since I didn't have a ton of training pants, I'd hand-wash them quickly, then they'd go right in with everything else. After all, they were pre-washed. I think we're waaayyy too weirded-out about our own waste. We have a composting toilet, and it really isn't a big deal.  Congrats on going cloth for TP--it saves so much money and resources! |
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Post by farmer on Oct 16, 2015 20:35:37 GMT
nevermind, I already said that....
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Post by Melissa on Oct 16, 2015 20:40:13 GMT
I would definitely supply toilet paper for guests! I think most people would be concerned about using cloth at someone else's house.
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Post by oldmania on Oct 16, 2015 22:54:23 GMT
I will always find money in the budget for good toilet paper. We buy White Cloud 3 Ply.
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Post by ohiodreamer on Oct 16, 2015 23:34:43 GMT
Ww only use them as "pee pads" right now. I REALLY don't like paper TP(my grandma was the same way)...can't stand the debris/fuzz it leaves. The "higher the quality" (IE highly advertised - high price ones)the more I hate it. We always have paper TP available for guests.
Our bathroom has the washer and dryer in it, so we just toss the used wipe directly in the washer. They get washed with "regular" laundry. If we were using only cloth (IE not just for pee) I'd have a bucket (1 gallon size) with water, few drops of soap, and teaspoon full of baking soda in the water. Then wash with normal laundry (after draining water....tupperware type pitchers work great as they can "strain" out the water and leave the cloth. We do the same with of fabric "lady cloths"
I made ours from a damaged flannel sheet. Why one of my kids took a pair of scissor to their sheets, I'll never understand why....kid was 6 or 7 at the time. I've slowly been using that sheet for all kinds of things. 4" squares seem to work well for this.....I sew 2 together making 2-ply. Seems to be the perfect absorbancy for us.
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Post by manygoatsnmore on Oct 16, 2015 23:51:11 GMT
I use a soft terry towel that was getting a few holes in it. Ripped into squares roughly 6"x6" and zigzagged the edges to prevent fraying, they are "just right" to me. I have a 2nd waste basket in the bathroom and just drop the used cloths into it. At this point the cloths are mainly used for urination only. I thought there would be an odor, but even my sensitive nose doesn't smell a thing. I launder them in hot water with a bit of bleach in the soapy wash water. I don't know that I'd do it much differently if I was using them for poo, too. Maybe soak them in a bit of soapy water in a covered pail, like I did with diapers.
There is always TP on the spindle, too, so guests don't have to worry.
At the price of TP, it is nice to spend less on something that will just be flushed or thrown away. Plus, I like the way cloth cleans and absorbs. I feel cleaner using cloth.
eta: I forgot to say, I wash the cloths separately.
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Post by snoozy on Oct 17, 2015 0:26:23 GMT
Just use water. Pour it over the requisite parts with your right hand while washing said parts with your left hand. Pat dry with a towel if you like. Wash hands well with soapafterwards. Duh.
This is how it is done in all of South and Southeast Asia.
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Post by Ozarks Tom on Oct 17, 2015 0:49:29 GMT
I'm concerned the garage ceiling is going to collapse one day from the weight of the TP stored up there. We buy Sam's "Geronimo" brand, it nearly melts in water so no problems for the septic system.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2015 1:26:53 GMT
We buy for guests.
For us we cut flannel onto squares/rectangles. We keep them stacked in empty diaper wipe boxes. Drop them in a plastic trash bin with a swinging lid when used.
Wash in their own load. Clean bucket when necessary. Not often. No stink. Usually hang dry.
We're not 100% off store tp yet. But, darned close. I will keep some always for guests though.
I bought the fabric in qtr yard packs at Walmart for pretty cheap.
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Post by manygoatsnmore on Oct 17, 2015 3:01:54 GMT
Just use water. Pour it over the requisite parts with your right hand while washing said parts with your left hand. Pat dry with a towel if you like. Wash hands well with soapafterwards. Duh. This is how it is done in all of South and Southeast Asia. I'm afraid I'm not that coordinated, lol! Hopelessly right handed...I'd never make it in one of the societies that reserve peri area cleansing to the left hand only. =0 |
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Post by whisperwindkat on Oct 17, 2015 11:26:04 GMT
We have a small trash can with a lid next to the potty. I put water and a little laundry detergent in there. When full it goes in the wash all by itself. I keep toilet paper for guests, but personally I hate toilet paper. The trash can is rinsed out when the wipes go in the washer. No smell, no fuss. Oh, slmost forgot. Our wipes are cut up t-shirts, and flannel shirts. T-shirts don't need to be sewn, but the flannel does.
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Post by ceresone on Oct 17, 2015 13:13:01 GMT
I'm still stuck on the "using hands" thing. does it require a third hand to pour the water? or you using the shower? I;m just confused as to where the eater is coming from?
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Post by snoozy on Oct 17, 2015 14:10:19 GMT
Your right hand holds a container of water, while your left hand massages water through your parts, just as when in the shower. In the Indian subcontinent, this is called a lota, and has a spout like a teapot. Or if a lota is not present, there will be a mugga, which is a big plastic mug. In Indonesia and Malaysia, they use a largish, shallow, round plastic bowl, which I find more tricky to maneuver. In modern bathrooms in Asia, a handheld sprayer, like an ordinary home dish sprayer is plumbed in.
Here, I use a large yogurt container. We picked up a sprayer in Malaysia, and I have plumbing stubouts next to the toilet waiting since I built the house. I gotta get that sprayer installed...
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Post by here to stay on Oct 17, 2015 15:13:56 GMT
I'm concerned the garage ceiling is going to collapse one day from the weight of the TP stored up there. We buy Sam's "Geronimo" brand, it nearly melts in water so no problems for the septic system. As long as the roof never leaks........... |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2015 16:00:56 GMT
Just use water. Pour it over the requisite parts with your right hand while washing said parts with your left hand. Pat dry with a towel if you like. Wash hands well with soapafterwards. Duh. This is how it is done in all of South and Southeast Asia. Don't forget which hand is which. UH NO. We still have an outhouse, mostly used by me, if I am outside with dirty boots but it has toilet paper since there are no longer non slick paper catalogs and not enough corn husks any more. Oak leaves are too small and maple trees to far away, lol. We can buy 12 double rolls for $3.99, 3 packs last a year or more. Once a day does it, unless something is wrong....James |
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Post by patty on Oct 17, 2015 18:03:16 GMT
TP is a must if one has company but I buy a generic baby wipe that costs 1.00 for 80 wipes for myself. I keep the lined covered trash can for these. This generic is sold at Kroger and is in a yellow package.
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Post by Daniel on Oct 17, 2015 22:27:04 GMT
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Post by comfortablynumb on Oct 17, 2015 23:17:03 GMT
In indoor benjo ditch, that would save some room.
As I read squatting is actually better for you physically, as you evolved to squat not sit.
I'll stick to TP until the apocalypse requires I change.
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Post by manygoatsnmore on Oct 17, 2015 23:59:55 GMT
It's not so much a matter of sticking to TP, but of TP sticking to one's bum, lol!  |
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Post by claytonpiano on Oct 18, 2015 0:11:43 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2015 0:55:39 GMT
We have a bidet. We have TP for company. I use old microfiber rags, old frayed wash cloths, and have recently found some old flannel in a box to be converted to wipers. I use wipers exclusively, unless something quite disastrous has happened... LOL! The bidet hoses things off 100% so you're only blotting a little water off... I recycle the same piddle wiper rag for a day or so, allowing it to dry on the edge of the tub between blottings. It gets tossed in its own exclusive laundry pile until a few have gathered up, and then they get washed all by themselves. A wiper that does a rear end blotting is only used once, and gets tossed in the basket. I've pre-washed a couple rear blotters in the bathroom sink before letting them dry & tossing them in with the piddle wipers. Nothing ever smells. As a matter of fact, your undercarriage will be much fresher if you use a bidet/washer of any kind. (After hanky-panky, a bidet is wonderful...) |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2015 3:44:53 GMT
Great responses but one question I have if you use a portable bidet or spray bottle, how does the that cold water feel on your lady ( or man ) parts?
I would think that even room temperature water would shock your junk.
I wash my undies separate from other clothes due to the urine/feces contamination, so I definitely wash my wipes separately, but it takes a while to accumulate enough for a full laundry load.
I can't believe how expensive TP is,it as expensive to put food in your body as it is to take care of it coming out of your body.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2015 15:00:14 GMT
My bidet is piped into the cold water, as it is... The first time or two - it was shocking... Between the temperature and water pressure, OH MY! Eek! ROFL! (Aimed correctly, yes, it can break the seal, folks! Ask me how I know!) I have learned what pressure and angle works best. And the temperature is much like anything else, a learned favorite. I now find it quite refreshing. I laugh in the Summer about hearing the sizzle and seeing a steam cloud.... (I have also taken to liking my hair washed in cold water.) It's nothing but practice. And preferences. Were we to not have the plumbed bidet, I would go with a garden sprayer (bend the wand) and would home-mix an herbal wash! :thumbup: |
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Post by snoozy on Oct 18, 2015 16:57:27 GMT
Cold water is shocking. It was always the height of luxury at my rich friends' house in Lahore to get warm water in the lota! My plumbing stubouts include hot water, so I've planned ahead there ;-)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2015 0:18:33 GMT
Your right hand holds a container of water, while your left hand massages water through your parts, just as when in the shower. In the Indian subcontinent, this is called a lota, and has a spout like a teapot. Or if a lota is not present, there will be a mugga, which is a big plastic mug. In Indonesia and Malaysia, they use a largish, shallow, round plastic bowl, which I find more tricky to maneuver. In modern bathrooms in Asia, a handheld sprayer, like an ordinary home dish sprayer is plumbed in. Here, I use a large yogurt container. We picked up a sprayer in Malaysia, and I have plumbing stubouts next to the toilet waiting since I built the house. I gotta get that sprayer installed... If I remember right, I think there are social rules about which hand you can eat with or shake hands, etc. And, it's related to the tradition of which hands do which job in the potty. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2015 0:20:58 GMT
Walmart here sells a cheap four pack of toilet paper for $0.68 plus tax.
That's what I've been buying for keeping for guests.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2015 3:04:28 GMT
Once when riding the ferry to Istanbul, my friend became ill with gastro intestinal disfortitude. Being an old hand in the Middle East, he knew as did I, that he was going to have to visit the public facility to relieve the stress. He put it off as long as possible and left the comfort of the top deck to make his way into the bowels of the ship to find the "drop zone" that awaited. Putrid, nasty and without comparison in its contemptible attributes of disgust, the drop zone was simply about a 3 ft x 3 ft porcelain tiled square maybe 5-6 inches deep with a hole somewhat in the middle. No water available, no toilet paper, just a bar to hold onto in order to keep from falling backwards while squatting. So off he went. I waited, and waited a long while before he returned ashen faced and quiet. He pulled his hat low over his eyes, took up a reclined slouch in the deck chair with his feet up and simply said, "I don't want to talk about it." I conceded the point and hushed my mouth, until...a couple minutes later I noticed his bright new pair of Adidas running shoes were both...well, both of them had no tongues!
Two minor cultural details with potentially serious consequences I learned while there are; don't look the women in the eyes, don't offer your left hand to a hand shake. Oh yes, and always carry a couple of extra handkerchiefs when away from your home range.
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Post by Rustaholic on Oct 20, 2015 17:33:47 GMT
Once when riding the ferry to Istanbul, my friend became ill with gastro intestinal disfortitude. Being an old hand in the Middle East, he knew as did I, that he was going to have to visit the public facility to relieve the stress. He put it off as long as possible and left the comfort of the top deck to make his way into the bowels of the ship to find the "drop zone" that awaited. Putrid, nasty and without comparison in its contemptible attributes of disgust, the drop zone was simply about a 3 ft x 3 ft porcelain tiled square maybe 5-6 inches deep with a hole somewhat in the middle. No water available, no toilet paper, just a bar to hold onto in order to keep from falling backwards while squatting. So off he went. I waited, and waited a long while before he returned ashen faced and quiet. He pulled his hat low over his eyes, took up a reclined slouch in the deck chair with his feet up and simply said, "I don't want to talk about it." I conceded the point and hushed my mouth, until...a couple minutes later I noticed his bright new pair of Adidas running shoes were both...well, both of them had no tongues! Two minor cultural details with potentially serious consequences I learned while there are; don't look the women in the eyes, don't offer your left hand to a hand shake. Oh yes, and always carry a couple of extra handkerchiefs when away from your home range. Thank you much for that description. Right there was something I never have and never want to experience personally. 
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