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Post by terrilynn on Oct 20, 2015 18:30:26 GMT
In an emergency and when in the woods, I have taken out my pocketknife and cut my underwear off and used for TP. Lots better than leaves etc. Now days, a little older and maybe a bit wiser, I usually take a small roll of TP with me, when I am out and about. YOU NEVER KNOW!!!!! Be prepared. LOL This reminds me of a story about my oldest son. He goes to college some distance away and comes home to work on the week-ends. One week one of his better shirts went through the wash slit and ripped with a big chunk missing in side/front. I thought that was odd, then the next week another shirt went through the wash with similiar chunk missing. I was thinking the worst, that maybe he was getting in fights or something down at school and thats how his shirts were getting ripped up. So I asked him, and he works for a friend of ours, also a farmer and a fence builder. Turns out they had been building fence in a rather remote location and the boy had forgotten to "plan ahead" and needed to use what he had handy, good thing he carries a jackknife! I suggested that maybe he should throw a couple rags or pieces of paper towel or something in his pockets before leaving for the day......other wise he wouldn't have any clothes left!
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Post by bluemingidiot on Oct 20, 2015 19:23:26 GMT
Your right hand holds a container of water, while your left hand massages water through your parts, just as when in the shower. In the Indian subcontinent, this is called a lota, and has a spout like a teapot. Or if a lota is not present, there will be a mugga, which is a big plastic mug. In Indonesia and Malaysia, they use a largish, shallow, round plastic bowl, which I find more tricky to maneuver. In modern bathrooms in Asia, a handheld sprayer, like an ordinary home dish sprayer is plumbed in. Here, I use a large yogurt container. We picked up a sprayer in Malaysia, and I have plumbing stubouts next to the toilet waiting since I built the house. I gotta get that sprayer installed... Not even using YOUR left hand.
What about dribble?
I am starting to understand why the wife is always talking about how nasty the ladies rooms are.
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Post by bluemingidiot on Oct 20, 2015 19:28:52 GMT
Once when riding the ferry to Istanbul, my friend became ill with gastro intestinal disfortitude. Being an old hand in the Middle East, he knew as did I, that he was going to have to visit the public facility to relieve the stress. He put it off as long as possible and left the comfort of the top deck to make his way into the bowels of the ship to find the "drop zone" that awaited. Putrid, nasty and without comparison in its contemptible attributes of disgust, the drop zone was simply about a 3 ft x 3 ft porcelain tiled square maybe 5-6 inches deep with a hole somewhat in the middle. No water available, no toilet paper, just a bar to hold onto in order to keep from falling backwards while squatting. So off he went. I waited, and waited a long while before he returned ashen faced and quiet. He pulled his hat low over his eyes, took up a reclined slouch in the deck chair with his feet up and simply said, "I don't want to talk about it." I conceded the point and hushed my mouth, until...a couple minutes later I noticed his bright new pair of Adidas running shoes were both...well, both of them had no tongues! Two minor cultural details with potentially serious consequences I learned while there are; don't look the women in the eyes, don't offer your left hand to a hand shake. Oh yes, and always carry a couple of extra handkerchiefs when away from your home range. Speaking of cultural practices I understand we have 20,000 Mid-easterners coming in 2016 and 100,000 coming in 2017. Enjoy.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2015 0:45:30 GMT
In an emergency and when in the woods, I have taken out my pocketknife and cut my underwear off and used for TP. Lots better than leaves etc. Now days, a little older and maybe a bit wiser, I usually take a small roll of TP with me, when I am out and about. YOU NEVER KNOW!!!!! Be prepared. Yeah, I've had to cut off a few pairs of skivies over the years.
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Post by manygoatsnmore on Oct 21, 2015 1:26:08 GMT
Speaking of cultural practices I understand we have 20,000 Mid-easterners coming in 2016 and 100,000 coming in 2017. Enjoy. And they will assimilate and adapt just as generations of immigrants have done since colonial times. Sheesh.
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Post by paquebot on Oct 21, 2015 1:37:30 GMT
35 years ago, everyone was up in arms over how South Africa was being run. Before we went over, there was a big to-do in the news about how there were separate toilets for Europeans and Africans. First chance to see why was at the airport in Jo'burg. Just could not resist looking in on the African men's toilet. Looking in was enough. It was a hole in the floor and not all that clean around the rim!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2015 2:54:22 GMT
My experiences in the middle east had some stark contrasts in culture. It was off topic so I didn't mention that on that same day as my friends discomfiture on the ferry, they had public executions in Istanbul. As we got in under the bridge, there were 3 bodies hanging from the bridge rails. No black sack over their heads either. But back to the topic of the thread, even in a more "refined" culture such as Paris I found it quite amusing that every so often along the sidewalks there would be a round metal booth or even a more open type "pissoir" where a man would stand, virtually in the open among the street pedestrians and in view of the car traffic and urinate with only a minimum amount of cover. I don't know if these are still in use or not, and even in Paris in the old section of the city (my haunts), one would still find the "drop zones" (as we called them)same as in Turkey. I am writing this after a half century or more since being at either place, so maybe a shy young man as I was then no longer finds himself unable to urinate in public due the unexpected approach of a group of women along the side walk. I am sure I was beet red, with head held low, while trying to get in and get out before embarrassment curtailed the entire operation.
Let me say that while in the middle east, I never met an Arab or Turk that I didn't like. If I did I don't recall it. For the most part poor, uneducated, honest and of good humor back then. Especially with Americans whom they thought all just had to be from California or Florida.
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Post by bluemingidiot on Oct 21, 2015 3:34:56 GMT
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Post by manygoatsnmore on Oct 21, 2015 3:45:37 GMT
And I will repeat my earlier post....see above. Many immigrants from various cultures have come here - golly, some of them even brought along some good ideas, like bidets!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2016 23:03:04 GMT
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Post by Skandi on Jul 8, 2016 6:33:44 GMT
If we're going to comment on toilet habits other than those pertaining to paper.. what is it with American public toilets, all the gaps, there's no point really having the door is there! @deerjohn, Such arangements exist in many places, all over britan in the larger cities, friday and saturday they put out public urinals, which are a shallow cross shape, so they can take four men at once, these are on public streets in well lit areas. I've seen them in Denmark as well, so quite possibly their pretty normal in most of northern europe.
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Post by Use Less on Jul 8, 2016 11:00:19 GMT
I realize, in an academic way, that in many parts of the world, toilet paper isn't available and wouldn't be considered suitable, but honestly, I had NO IDEA anyone here was voluntarily choosing to avoid using it. If this is about saving resources, I always try to guess the cost of the alternatives, which in this case is extra wash water, washing products, the cost of cloth and the labor of cleaning them well. Nope.
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Post by hermitjohn on Jul 8, 2016 12:43:20 GMT
Darn and here I was wondering what people were using since Monkey Ward went out of biz, and Sears discontinued its big catalogs. J.C.Whitney?? Modern slick paper catalogs not nearly as efficient.... and few ads on thin uncoated paper anymore. Maybe some lawyer has left over onion skin paper he'd sell cheap?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2016 14:24:36 GMT
I realize, in an academic way, that in many parts of the world, toilet paper isn't available and wouldn't be considered suitable, but honestly, I had NO IDEA anyone here was voluntarily choosing to avoid using it. If this is about saving resources, I always try to guess the cost of the alternatives, which in this case is extra wash water, washing products, the cost of cloth and the labor of cleaning them well. Nope. Oh yeah I have ventured onto many reddit threads and random blogs who are trying to stop using toilet paper for several reasons. But from what I recall, that was only for pee, they still use/used tp for poo I believe. Lots of people are eco-friendly now, or just want to be as self-sustainable as possible. I believe one woman on here in the "under $1000 a month" said she used re-usable cloth for peeing only. If you can cut out just a little bit of waste, why not is their thinking. Re-usable cloth would be much more cost effective too in the long run. Anytime you go with something re-usable versus disposable, I think the savings are there. I tried this on a very very tiny scale. During this pregnancy I have been sneezing a lot and I pee every time I sneeze even if I literally just peed and emptied my bladder! Instead of getting panty liners, I went with micro-fiber kitchen cloths which I cut into strips. They were cheaper than the panty liners to begin with. It has now been a month since I've bought these, they have been washed twice and they are still fine. I would think the panty liner box would have run out about now, so the savings are exponential really. Not to mention the feel of soft microfiber down there is much nicer than the plastic-y panty liner stuff lol. Anywho, I would think the savings could be just as much if not much more by swapping to pee-cloths. Last month I was reading about re-usable pads as well, cloth pads made with plush material that you just use like a disposable but you wash. I think that would save loads of $$ for us here.
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Post by Skandi on Jul 8, 2016 15:14:20 GMT
If we're going to comment on toilet habits other than those pertaining to paper.. what is it with American public toilets, all the gaps, there's no point really having the door is there! Do you mean the gaps in the door of the stalls or..? Yup that's precisely what I mean!
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Post by bluemingidiot on Jul 8, 2016 18:30:07 GMT
I'm outside my comfort zone, but are you saying some females or transgenders peep on each other? Guys have troughs and it is an honor system not to check out those standing next to you. Not even suppose to talk unless you know each other or are gay.
Maybe a sign would be appropriate, "No gap gaping, please."
Maybe someone should invent a collapsible stall rod and curtain that would fit in a large purse somewhat like a collapsible umbrella.
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Post by Skandi on Jul 8, 2016 18:51:50 GMT
I'm outside my comfort zone, but are you saying some females or transgenders peep on each other? Guys have troughs and it is an honor system not to check out those standing next to you. Not even suppose to talk unless you know each other or are gay. Maybe a sign would be appropriate, "No gap gaping, please." Maybe someone should invent a collapsible stall rod and curtain that would fit in a large purse somewhat like a collapsible umbrella. Or one could just have doors that fit like we do over here!
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Post by wildhorseluvr on Jul 8, 2016 20:11:36 GMT
I'm outside my comfort zone, but are you saying some females or transgenders peep on each other? Guys have troughs and it is an honor system not to check out those standing next to you. Not even suppose to talk unless you know each other or are gay. Maybe a sign would be appropriate, "No gap gaping, please." Maybe someone should invent a collapsible stall rod and curtain that would fit in a large purse somewhat like a collapsible umbrella. The frugal answer to that problem would be 2 small clamps from Harbor Freight plus a Dollar Tree tablecloth...both of which would easily fit in a purse.
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Post by bluemingidiot on Jul 8, 2016 22:35:30 GMT
Not sure style-conscious ladies would go for that.
A curtain could have a Caribbean beach on one side and a picture of Hillary sitting on a toilet on the other.
And the curtains could have fragrances. You could even dry your hands in case the restroom was out off paper towels. Machine washable.
Or maybe just a handsize, strongly scented aerosol sprayer for the peeker which would let everyone know that they had been caught peeking again.
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Post by bluemingidiot on Jul 8, 2016 23:14:23 GMT
I'm outside my comfort zone, but are you saying some females or transgenders peep on each other? Guys have troughs and it is an honor system not to check out those standing next to you. Not even suppose to talk unless you know each other or are gay. Maybe a sign would be appropriate, "No gap gaping, please." Maybe someone should invent a collapsible stall rod and curtain that would fit in a large purse somewhat like a collapsible umbrella. Or one could just have doors that fit like we do over here! Don't know much about the British diet but over here probably need as much air flow as possible. Serious issues could occur if the space was air tight. And if someone passes out or has some medical emergency a peeker could save their life. Although I suppose an angled mirror on a rod would work where the top or bottom is open.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2016 23:15:27 GMT
I didn't mean to imply they were purposely peeping. I have had no experience with the TG group as of yet (that I know of). I just mean when girls are waiting for a stall they might wait where they are subconsciously looking at the gap or when they are looking for an open stall they peer into the gap instead of pushing on the door to see if it's open. It's all subconscious on their part, I'm sure I've done it too, but if you're on the inside you're trying to hide your parts lol.
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Post by paquebot on Jul 9, 2016 2:14:07 GMT
One reason the door gaps are there is to show that someone's in there without trying to open every door. A second is to allow more air flow to make it bearable for the next person.
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Post by themotherhen on Jul 9, 2016 2:48:46 GMT
Can't people just look under the door and we can get rid of the gaps and people pushing on the doors? Sometimes the locks are 't very secure!
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Post by bluemingidiot on Jul 9, 2016 3:19:22 GMT
Yeah, and they could just install a tilted mirror to the door bottom so people wouldn't have to bend down to look. Then the person inside could also see what was going on outside.
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Post by bluemingidiot on Jul 9, 2016 9:36:09 GMT
I still think a stall curtain with collapsible rod is the best solution. Jokes could be printed on the curtain then when the user laughed that would let others know the stall was occupied.
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Post by paquebot on Jul 9, 2016 13:20:47 GMT
At one time it was socially acceptable to be seen doing something quite natural such as a bowel movement. Our home farm had a 3-hole outhouse. When I went into the USMC in 1956, there was a row of urinals on one side and commodes on the other. Find an old episode of Gomer Pyle where he rigs all of the lids to pop up for inspection as if standing at attention. Then you'll see how it used to be.
As for using toilet paper, a roll might last me a year under present circumstances. I need Spiriva to prevent fluid from building up in my lungs. Side effect is constipation since it also removes liquid from the bowels. There is nothing to wipe.
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Post by bluemingidiot on Jul 9, 2016 13:43:31 GMT
Old people are as open as the latrines in the old military barracks.
Any of you younger people ever heard the expression, "Ship or get off the pot" (or some form of it)? Well, in the military, people ate quickly, which sometimes led to constipation. And during the day's training restroom breaks were limited. In the evening you needed to clean weapons, polish boots, read and write letters, shower, shave and the other personal matters before lights out. The old barracks housed 60 soldiers but only had three stallless toilets. There was always a group of guys standing around waiting their turn. Maybe you can figure out the expression, or maybe not. Probably be just as happy if you can't.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2016 18:00:27 GMT
Can't people just look under the door and we can get rid of the gaps and people pushing on the doors? Sometimes the locks are 't very secure! This!!! It's so true. I can't remember how many bathroom trips have resulted in me anxiously trying to hold the lock closed/stable while I also tried to do my business as fast as possible. I agree do away with the pushing and the door gaps if possible! When I was in the workforce, this woman at work would always come into our ladies bathroom on the 4th floor with this really nice air freshener. Whenever she went to pee or poo she would spray it during and after. That bathroom always smelled much better after she had done her duty than before. I loved going in there, it was so calming (because of the scent) and the fresh flowers they brought in every day. I think an automatic air freshener would be a neat addition to any bathroom. People could push the button if they wanted it and it could just spray at intervals automatically too.
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Post by comfortablynumb on Jul 10, 2016 3:31:33 GMT
Keep your pepper spray handy to nail a peeper looking through the cracks. Imagine the entertainment value.
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