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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2016 16:59:25 GMT
So, my sham of a "marriage" has been resolved and the nightmare that was my divorce is finalized. Armed with a partner who is homestead-ready, too.... Where do I wanna go? I absolutely love Texas, but I grow weary of the lack of water. And the drug cartel invasion from down south...  I really want to settle down somewhere that has a good growing season, low taxes, good people, very little government intrusion, etc. We started out looking at the Old Cotton Belt, thinking that there might be inexpensive land available, with a temperate climate and good growing - but discovered that the demographics aren't quite what we were anticipating. So, we approached it from the demographics angle first, and then narrowed it down to annual rainfall and seasonal norms. We won't be needing to put kids in school, so that criteria won't be as much an issue... We have family in OK, TX, VA, East Coast etc. so there's a bunch of real estate between us all already - that's no real help. Does anyone live in Southern Missouri? Whatcha think of the rural areas? Pros? Cons? Quirks? If you could snag 10-20 acres ANYWHERE... Where would you go and why? |
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Post by Awnry Abe on Apr 9, 2016 21:11:16 GMT
West central MO. Awesome,
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2016 21:52:05 GMT
If I were going to pull up stakes it wouldn't be that far to go, but the area along state highway 2 through the Florida panhandle from the Chattahoochee River as far west as Graceville (  )is interspersed with small communities and little towns blessed with forested natural beauty and some great farming country. Plenty of rainfall in a long growing season as well as being far enough away from the coast, avoiding the hustle and bustle of the tourists and military bases but close enough to commute to a good job opportunity, otherwise just the good stuff. |
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Post by here to stay on Apr 10, 2016 0:19:42 GMT
If you could snag 10-20 acres ANYWHERE... Where would you go and why? Manhatten NY. Where upon I could sell it and buy a thousand acres anywhere else in the world I wanted. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2016 1:13:11 GMT
SW Missouri stay away from Springfield area and have less regulations. Land is rough and rocky but can be worked with. Have Farmed and raised Garden with the soil we have but matter of picking rocks off, now I just use Raised Beds with dirt I brought in. But I have raised Row Crops and Small Grain.
Cheaper Land usually has Brush and Timber. I had this mainly raised Goats but did also raise Hogs and a Calf every so often for butchering.
Yes you can run into areas that are very Clannish and it is all their way. Don't even say anything about changing them.
Drugs yes they can be Bad, but also Drinking. If you don't want any part of it most leave you alone.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2016 2:34:50 GMT
Central Wisconsin is cheap, but it's stew and long underwear all winter.  |
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Post by wvterri on Apr 10, 2016 5:21:38 GMT
I'm partial to the area I lived in Kentucky and I hope to move back there eventually. I wish I'd never moved 1 1/2 years ago and the only reason I did is because the kids wanted to be closer to family.
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Post by AD in WNC on Apr 10, 2016 12:33:43 GMT
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Post by jupiter on Apr 10, 2016 13:03:39 GMT
We've talked about Kentucky for a retirement home. It's beautiful, cheap cost of living, taxes are cheap.
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Post by coppice on Apr 10, 2016 14:47:06 GMT
In this wonderful day of satelite maps, let google do your initial walking. There are bits of KS, MO, ARK, IL, OH, TN, that have water and access to it, and enough wrinkles to make big AG look someplace else.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2016 15:31:00 GMT
West central MO. Awesome, Thank ya... We have found some good little parcels for very reasonable prices! If I were going to pull up stakes it wouldn't be that far to go, but the area along state highway 2 through the Florida panhandle from the Chattahoochee River as far west as Graceville ( )is interspersed with small communities and little towns blessed with forested natural beauty and some great farming country. Plenty of rainfall in a long growing season as well as being far enough away from the coast, avoiding the hustle and bustle of the tourists and military bases but close enough to commute to a good job opportunity, otherwise just the good stuff. Hmmm, we hadn't looked THAT far East... Back to Google Earth and City-Data.com thanks for the tip! If you could snag 10-20 acres ANYWHERE... Where would you go and why? Manhatten NY. Where upon I could sell it and buy a thousand acres anywhere else in the world I wanted. Bwa ha ha ha! Yeahhhhhhhhh, well, our budget is wayyyyyyyyy too small for that purchase. Grin, snicker. SW Missouri stay away from Springfield area and have less regulations. Land is rough and rocky but can be worked with. Have Farmed and raised Garden with the soil we have but matter of picking rocks off, now I just use Raised Beds with dirt I brought in. But I have raised Row Crops and Small Grain.
Cheaper Land usually has Brush and Timber. I had this mainly raised Goats but did also raise Hogs and a Calf every so often for butchering.
Yes you can run into areas that are very Clannish and it is all their way. Don't even say anything about changing them.
Drugs yes they can be Bad, but also Drinking. If you don't want any part of it most leave you alone.
Rockpile Ah ha... Gotcha. I was curious if the news articles were sensationalizing the meth and weed issues... Good to know. We can research that a bit more... Central Wisconsin is cheap, but it's stew and long underwear all winter. Oh brrrrrrr... Not sure I could do that. I've always lived in warm areas and not sure my old bones could handle Lotsa Cold! I'm partial to the area I lived in Kentucky and I hope to move back there eventually. I wish I'd never moved 1 1/2 years ago and the only reason I did is because the kids wanted to be closer to family. I understand... Where I came from has exploded in population, so I'm not interested in going back to VA! Oooooh, thanks! I hadn't seen that... We've talked about Kentucky for a retirement home. It's beautiful, cheap cost of living, taxes are cheap. I have looked at some in KY & TN... In this wonderful day of satelite maps, let google do your initial walking. There are bits of KS, MO, ARK, IL, OH, TN, that have water and access to it, and enough wrinkles to make big AG look someplace else. That is exactly what we have been doing... Remote searching! It's hard to get realtors to send us any further info. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2016 20:22:39 GMT
North East TX. Anywhere further north is too dang cold.
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Post by LauraD on Apr 11, 2016 22:59:21 GMT
I second southern Missouri. I did extensive research before starting our land hunt, and narrowed it down to 20 counties that looked like they would be a good fit. I looked at everything from building codes (none!) to politics to crime. Just bought our place a month ago, and we like what we see so far.
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Post by aoconnor on Apr 14, 2016 17:12:30 GMT
I am going to second North East Texas or southern Missouri. Both are very temperate, mild climates compared to other locations farther north or int the "middle". I would go for east Texas if I were moving for a good growing season. I'm in North Central Texas right now, but we ranch rather than farm, so the lack of rain is less difficult for us that it would be for a grower.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2016 17:26:38 GMT
It appears that Ranch/Farm credit requires a 30% down... Eek!
We might have to adjust our goal. :,(
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Post by LauraD on Apr 28, 2016 11:40:52 GMT
Yeah, I know the down payment is large. Unfortunately, that tends to be the way it goes with unimproved land. I suspect that a few local banks in Southern Missouri will finance raw land, but you would have to contact them one by one to find out.
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Post by tenbusybees on Apr 28, 2016 12:59:41 GMT
Lack of water? We got 97" last year.  Are you referring to the water districts with their lake levels and water rationing? Peter is being robbed to pay Paul. My opinion, of course. All the lakes in our county, our ponds included, are FULL. The county next to us, who received just as much rain as us, are already talking about summer rationing and lawn watering days. Their lakes are 15-20 feet low because Dallas pulls out of it, not because of drought...though that's what they say. Stay away from DFW/Austin/Houston and out of water districts (which also dictates if you can dig a well or not) and stay in the eastern part of Texas and water really isn't an issue. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2016 23:21:10 GMT
Yes, Bexar County also owns the water rights here. No wells allowed. |
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