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Post by bluemingidiot on May 5, 2016 3:14:31 GMT
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Post by snoozy on May 5, 2016 13:59:42 GMT
Interesting. It would be nice if there could be skylights to provide more natural light.
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Post by hermitjohn on May 5, 2016 15:56:39 GMT
I cant remember where now, but I saw a building like this somebody made from scratch, with stock lumber. That took some serious planning (and time) to make the arches, what got my interest. Few are interested in going to the trouble of making something truly unique. Few have the skill for one thing. For all practical purposes, this is like making an inverted boat hull. I would think one would use similar techniques.
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Post by bluemingidiot on May 5, 2016 16:00:26 GMT
And one could put a propeller on top for a weather vane.
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Post by hermitjohn on May 5, 2016 16:58:15 GMT
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Post by coppice on May 5, 2016 17:11:19 GMT
Needs lights on the sides. More windows.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2016 18:05:50 GMT
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Post by bluemingidiot on May 5, 2016 20:50:42 GMT
I have a problem dealing with anyone whose product is so overpriced he is ashamed to tell me the price. Why can't they show some Quonset buildings, give dimensions and price? I also don't like dealing with anyone who wants my personal information before answering product questions. I like the Quonset concept but working with those people would be like working with a car salesman. (Which is what they may have been before selling Quonsets).
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Post by Awnry Abe on May 6, 2016 2:13:35 GMT
Some folks buy on price. Some folks sell on price. Some folks buy on value, some folks sell on value. The two types do not mix. There are some buyers that are a hybrid of price and vale. Sellers seldom are. If you find a seller that won't divvy up a price, it is because it is imperative for them to determine the value of the thing to you before they engage in the transaction.
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Post by bluemingidiot on May 6, 2016 11:07:01 GMT
I agree with what you said.
Would add when there are two dealers selling F150s and I am interested in a F150, if one gives me a price up front and the other hides behind "beat all other dealers prices" gimmicks, I am more inclined to buy from the up front dealer, even if that is not the best price because I suspect everything the gimmick dealer says more than the up front dealer. I think that why it is imperative that the car dealer or Quonset dealer know the value of the item to buyer is to create enough stress and tension for the buyer so that they give up and pay a higher price just to get the drama over.
For those who don't have much drama in their life the haggling may be fun. Dealers always have the upper hand, and I do believe that it is the goal of most to beat buyers out of as much money as they can. I think most people on this board are like Wendy when she babysits, at most, she just wants a fair price. One can tell she is sensitive to parents ability to pay. Wendy understands the golden rule, dealers maybe not so much.
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Post by wolfmom on May 6, 2016 14:12:02 GMT
Gads, guys - why are you hung up on the price of the Quonset hut ad shown when all you have to do is go online & find many with prices??
I bet rockpile just put that ad up to show what one looks like - not thinking about the prices.
As far as the arched cabins, I immediately thought it's an expensive spin on the old A Frames. Cute though.
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Post by snoozy on May 6, 2016 14:16:46 GMT
It is possible that there are many factors/variables involved in pricing and they can't price things until they know what features you want. It isn't always easy to organize a pricing structure in a clear manner on a website either. If I were looking to spend thousands of dollars in something, I would take the time to compare what each company offered. Some companies are better at doing their jobs than promoting it.
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Post by bluemingidiot on May 6, 2016 18:15:57 GMT
Gads, guys - why are you hung up on the price of the Quonset hut ad shown when all you have to do is go online & find many with prices?? I bet rockpile just put that ad up to show what one looks like - not thinking about the prices. As far as the arched cabins, I immediately thought it's an expensive spin on the old A Frames. Cute though. Why couldn't that ad show how to find the prices? I'm just glad when I go to a grocery store I don't have to jump through all the hoops to find a price that dealerships require.. The guy I buy tires from quotes me one price which includes all the Mickey Mouse charges. No way will I do business with someone who has one price for tires, plus valve stems, plus balancing, plus mounting, plus disposal, plus warranty. Reminds me too much of buying a car. When a tire is damaged my tire guy reminds me when I have warranty and adjusts the price. That's the old fashion way, no paperwork, no going online. Hard for me to realize some people may be so young they don't know what a Quonset hut looks like, but you may well be correct. |
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Post by hermitjohn on May 6, 2016 18:26:53 GMT
Unfortunately people lie if not outright, then by the sin of omission. Back when those portable light duty car ports were being pushed, you would see this really elaborate one alongside road with sign saying $800. You get out and go look close at the sign and in smallest font imaginable, it would say "starting at". The $800 was for there smallest most minimalist one available that frankly nobody would give $800 for.
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Post by hermitjohn on May 6, 2016 18:31:31 GMT
Gads, guys - why are you hung up on the price of the Quonset hut ad shown when all you have to do is go online & find many with prices?? I bet rockpile just put that ad up to show what one looks like - not thinking about the prices. As far as the arched cabins, I immediately thought it's an expensive spin on the old A Frames. Cute though. Why couldn't that ad show how to find the prices? I'm just glad when I go to a grocery store I don't have to jump through all the hoops to find a price that dealerships require.. The guy I buy tires from quotes me one price which includes all the Mickey Mouse charges. No way will I do business with someone who has one price for tires, plus valve stems, plus balancing, plus mounting, plus disposal, plus warranty. Reminds me too much of buying a car. When a tire is damaged my tire guy reminds me when I have warranty and adjusts the price. That's the old fashion way, no paperwork, no going online. Hard for me to realize some people may be so young they don't know what a Quonset hut looks like, but you may well be correct. Unfortunately thats back where in small town, if buisinessman was dishonest, word spread and nobody traded with him. If he wanted to cheat, it would be some stranger passing through. Now in large populations, the dishonest buisinessman continually finds new crop of suckers to take advantage of so isnt so worried about reputation. |
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Post by Skandi on May 6, 2016 18:55:31 GMT
what's really funny is I can't even see the website, it tells me it's only for canadians and not avaliable in my country That is so stupid, I could be moving, or be canadian on holiday or many other things! |
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Post by wolfmom on May 7, 2016 11:33:56 GMT
Sorry, guys - did not mean to offend. Gather I misinterpreted your posts.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2016 17:13:01 GMT
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Post by bluemingidiot on May 7, 2016 18:34:26 GMT
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Post by Bear Foot Farm on May 8, 2016 2:06:17 GMT
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Post by bluemingidiot on May 8, 2016 2:36:03 GMT
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Post by Bear Foot Farm on May 8, 2016 10:56:50 GMT
Nope. The only thing I ever sold for a living was firearms. The thing with these buildings though is that there is no "standard" They come in many sizes, with lots of options that make it hard to list an accurate price without asking for some details Prices will also fluctuate depending on demand for metals, so rather than list a price that could go up, they only give current prices when you ask, and that price is locked in if you sign a contract. Prices can also vary depending on location with Northern areas having to worry about snow loads, and Southern coastal areas would be more concerned with hurricane ratings. |
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Post by snoozy on May 9, 2016 2:01:16 GMT
My husband does solar installations, and on his website www.solectrix.com, he asks for info about what county in WA people live in because different counties' power companies have different policies, and he asks what kind of a system a prospective client is interested in, so that he can best answer questions. After contact he will ask for people's electric bill, so he can estimate the minimum and the maximum size of system they would need/could install. Always seemed rather personal to ask to see an electric bill, but there is a specific and good reason for it. |
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Post by Bear Foot Farm on May 9, 2016 12:27:11 GMT
Yeah, that is what we are talking about. You have to give info about yourself in order get a price. I try to avoid giving info on myself. Use a fake name if you're paranoid. They still need lots of other info to give an accurate price. |
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Post by bluemingidiot on May 9, 2016 19:43:32 GMT
Why do they need my phone? I do not want a salesman calling me. There are two reasons for sellers to call the customer: 1. There's a better chance of talking him into something he might not otherwise go for; and 2. The customer cannot prove what the salesman said during a phone call. An e-mail from the seller can be quite advantageous if there are future disagreements about the deal.
Price becomes more important to me when the seller is hesitant to provide it or only wants to slip it in as part of a sales spiel.
"A lack of transparency results in distrust and a deep sense of insecurity."
Dalai Lama
ETA: If you give them a landline number they can get your street address.
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Post by snoozy on May 9, 2016 20:35:31 GMT
Lordy, just build it yourself then if you're so paranoid. I mean, I do understand not wanting to set yourself up for a bunch of marketing calls, but honestly, looking at it from the sellers/service provider's point of view, you're just making it difficult for them to work with you. Look at the about page of any website to see if you will be dealing with a big corporation or with a real live individual business. Real business people are just like you: they don't want to waste their time any more than you do, but they are willing to work for your custom if you make it reasonable for them.
Customers who are prickly and difficult at the beginning of the interchange don't tend to get more reasonable the further into the project they get. Fair-dealing begets fair-dealing.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2016 21:07:25 GMT
Why do they need my phone? I do not want a salesman calling me. There are two reasons for sellers to call the customer: 1. There's a better chance of talking him into something he might not otherwise go for; and 2. The customer cannot prove what the salesman said during a phone call. An e-mail from the seller can be quite advantageous if there are future disagreements about the deal. Price becomes more important to me when the seller is hesitant to provide it or only wants to slip it in as part of a sales spiel.
Haven't followed this thread closely, but in answer to the above points, I never have any problem being talked into something I don't want by sales people over the phone. Not that I get a lot of these calls - most of my buying is online, apart from groceries and every-day stuff. But I do get calls from Sky and other utility companies trying to talk me into the latest channel or deal. A quick, polite "no thanks, I'm not interested" works every time for me. All it takes is saying the words.  And if a salesperson asks for my phone number and I'm not willing to give it, I simply tell them its unlisted and give them my email address instead.
On the rare occasion that I have a conversation where it might be necessary at some point in the future to remember it, I either ask the person to email me confirming the points we discussed, or I email them and ask them to confirm my understanding of whatever it is.
But I never deal with companies that won't give you an upfront price - e.g. those tele-advert companies that say you get a trial period of a product for so much money, but never tell you what the full cost is until you ring their 0800 number.
Simple. 
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Post by bluemingidiot on May 9, 2016 21:45:07 GMT
Everyone who gets unsolicited telemarketer calls should watch The Wolf of Wall Street to get an idea of what may be going on at the other end.
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Post by Bear Foot Farm on May 10, 2016 2:57:25 GMT
If you want their price, you may just have to give them your number.
Maybe they do it to avoid having to waste time with those who really aren't planning to buy anyway.
Telemarketers don't really need a source since they can use a computerized dialer that can dial consecutive numbers after entering an area code and prefix.
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And if a salesperson asks for my phone number and I'm not willing to give it, I simply tell them its unlisted and give them my email address instead. 