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Post by bluemingidiot on Aug 17, 2016 2:42:35 GMT
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Post by hermitjohn on Aug 17, 2016 3:14:17 GMT
Way they price pickups anymore, unless you did daily trips hauling loads of illegal drugs, not sure how you justify the expense.
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Post by bluemingidiot on Aug 17, 2016 11:42:04 GMT
hermitjohn, You're right of course but Texans feel like they're naked if they are not wearing a pickup.
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Post by snoozy on Aug 17, 2016 15:26:55 GMT
And what kind of mpg do they get?
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Post by dodgesmammaw on Aug 17, 2016 16:26:15 GMT
DH Titan get about 15 mpg . I drive a Nissian Frontier and it gets 23 mpg. It is true we Texans need a truck.
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Post by snoozy on Aug 17, 2016 17:49:02 GMT
My 1983 Isuzu pup got 32 mpg every day, and 38 on the hwy. No progress in 30 years.
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Post by bluemingidiot on Aug 18, 2016 11:44:30 GMT
Possibly emission control devices are the price to pay for lack of MPG improvement. "US-based General Motors told the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) that it had misstated the fuel economy on some 130,000 Chevy Traverses, GMC Acadias, and Buick Enclaves from 2016, overestimating the cars' mileage by 1-2 miles per gallon. GM has said it will compensate customers for the miles per gallon they thought they were getting, possibly with gift cards. The automaker also halted the sales of another 60,000 affected vehicles. GM said that the misstated mileage came from incorrect calculations made by the company when it was updating numbers for their 2016 models. The company said that new “emissions-related” hardware had changed the cars' miles per gallon, and GM failed to take that change into account." arstechnica.com/cars/2016/05/gm-says-it-misstated-fuel-economy-opel-denies-emissions-cheating-allegations/
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2016 15:14:29 GMT
Hey, I live in Missouri, and I would feel naked without a truck, although mine is a 2003 model Toyota Tundra with a V-6 and manual transmission. Runs like new with 186,000 miles on it.
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Post by snoozy on Aug 18, 2016 15:27:08 GMT
And what kind of mpg do you get?
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Post by hermitjohn on Aug 18, 2016 18:48:51 GMT
My 1983 Isuzu pup got 32 mpg every day, and 38 on the hwy. No progress in 30 years. Diesel? Think only couple gasoline pickups over the years topping 30mpg. The VW Rabbit pickup from late 70s into early 80s could. Very light weight with 1.6L engine. Diesel version could hit 50mpg. Mazda pickup in late seventies could, mostly cause of the steep rear axle ratio, it was not a fast vehicle. Courier was identical but without the steep gearing. And the Ranger with the dual overhead cam four cylinder and five speed could from like 2002 up until discontinued. The earlier single overhead cam four cylinder got around 25mpg. Gotta remember "small" pickups are now around 4000 pound. You arent going to get over 25mpg in such a vehicle with gas engine no matter what you do. 4000 pound is what a full size V8 half ton pickup with 8 foot bed weighed back when dinosaurs roamed the hiways. Vehicles have gotten fat, just like most Americans. Now I think something like the old 70s era Datsun 620 which weighed like 2200 pound, with modern engine tuned for economy could regularly get mileage in 30s or even low 40s. One I had with carburetor and no computer controls got around 25mpg, but in doing that was very peppy. Not some monster engine sports car peppy, but pleasant to drive in traffic with 4cyl engine. You could squeezed over 30mpg out of it with steep rear axle ratio (not fun in traffic) or maybe even an overdrive, it was four speed, not five speed.
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Post by hermitjohn on Aug 18, 2016 18:51:14 GMT
hermitjohn , You're right of course but Texans feel like they're naked if they are not wearing a pickup. Yep, those Texans and their Japanese pickups.....
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Post by bluemingidiot on Aug 18, 2016 20:11:04 GMT
Actually Japanese pickups don't sell well in Texas. For native Texans that would be like wearing boots made in Japan.
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Post by snoozy on Aug 18, 2016 21:00:21 GMT
Yes, it was a diesel.
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Post by jupiter on Aug 21, 2016 21:15:03 GMT
We will be looking in the next year or two for a heavy duty truck. I wish Toyota made one heavy enough for farm use. I think we'll be looking at Chevy or Ford.
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