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Post by bluemingidiot on Sept 6, 2016 13:36:47 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2016 13:57:11 GMT
The growth will be mitigated in the short term by the big pharmaceutical companies who are lobbying hard against medical marijuana; legalized medical marijuana would diminish their opioid profits.
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Post by kawaiitimes on Sept 7, 2016 11:53:05 GMT
It's legal here, and federal raids have diminished. It's the industry to get into, for sure.
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Post by mollymckee on Sept 7, 2016 15:17:02 GMT
It's legal here. The old hippies are buying legally, but it's expensive because it is highly taxed. According to the news the corner seller is much cheaper. The big thing we've seen is people feel they can drive using pot because it's legal. This is becoming more of a problem all the time. They don't get the "under the influence law" applies to drugs as well as alcohol. The only ones benefiting from the legal trade are those selling, who are making lots of money for the state while hurting people. Wait until they discover they can't claim any business deductions on their federal taxes because it isn't legal by federal law.
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Post by bluemingidiot on Sept 7, 2016 15:45:41 GMT
I think the federal government might have some substantive due process issues in letting liquor stores deduct business expenses but not recreational marijuana stores, regardless of whether it is illegal under federal law. Especially if someone has a medical prescription, then a marijuana shop has the aura of a pharmacy.
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Post by mollymckee on Sept 7, 2016 16:02:46 GMT
I believe medical marijuana shops have had to either get a regular license or close here. There are a limited number of state licenses available so I don't think you could use that as an excuse. Tax law has been pretty clear in the past. You are required to pay taxes on illegally made money and can not deduct any expenses.
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Post by willowgirl on Sept 7, 2016 17:56:42 GMT
I wonder how the people who have sunk fortunes into building grow operations will fare over the long haul. I can't help but wonder if the Feds at some point will find it too tempting not to swoop in and seize all of their (supposedly) ill-gotten gains/
As far as whether it should be legal ... it doesn't seem to be any more harmful than alcohol (probably less) and some people want to get high, so *shrug*.
I have no interest in smoking the stuff, but would love to be able to grow it legally for sale!
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Post by bluemingidiot on Sept 7, 2016 19:53:21 GMT
Don't smoke the stuff, that's bad for you. Think brownies and cookies.
We have immigration laws that are never going to be enforced. I don't think the marijuana laws are going to be enforced. When we ignore some laws, it encourages people to ignore others. In my opinion we need more sunset laws that are either continually reenacted every ten years or fall off the books. Congress doesn't have the stones to enforce and they don't have the stones to repeal. The busier we can keep Congresspeople with old laws, the less time they have to pass new laws.
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Post by mollymckee on Sept 8, 2016 2:28:38 GMT
A legal grower was murdered last night south of town. Whoever killed him told his 8 year old he was going to kill her Dad so she should stay in bed. She called her grandmother. The killer dumped pot all over the victim., it leads me to believe that pot was involved. It seems like even legal pot has problems.
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Post by willowgirl on Sept 8, 2016 3:05:57 GMT
My cynical side suspects the feds are waiting for a grow operation to build up millions in sales, then step in and seize all the property, vehicles, cash, etc.
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Post by comfortablynumb on Sept 8, 2016 3:25:55 GMT
All I want is a nice warm cup of train wreck tea so I can sleep comfortably at night.
Is that so wrong?
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Post by kawaiitimes on Sept 8, 2016 3:30:44 GMT
The DEA has done some raids early on in state legalization legislation, but now that the cat is out of the bag the raids are becoming less frequent. Growers, distributors and retailers are jumping through a lot of expensive (and dangerous) hoops to move forward, and as mollymckee said there are a limited number of licences available for each of the segments of the industry. Whether the feds want to reclassify marijuana or not, if enough people push for legalization they will cave on their stance of it as a dangerous substance. The fact is, legalization is a boon of tax money for the states the same way lottery, alcohol and tobacco sales are. Pharmacy lobbyists will hold onto the illegal status as long as possible, I'm sure. Personally, if it weren't for medical grade cannabis, my husband wouldn't be able to eat. The pills prescribed simply do not hold a candle to the high CBD cannabis products as far as slowing down his digestive tract. It is night and day - and the cannabis is considerably less expensive as well. |
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Post by bluemingidiot on Sept 8, 2016 7:13:46 GMT
A legal grower was murdered last night south of town. Whoever killed him told his 8 year old he was going to kill her Dad so she should stay in bed. She called her grandmother. The killer dumped pot all over the victim., it leads me to believe that pot was involved. It seems like even legal pot has problems. Liquor store owners get shot from time to time. |
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Post by Awnry Abe on Sept 11, 2016 3:32:18 GMT
For those BofA and the "many experts" numbers to come true, you must ask if it will come after legalization? Or will it be decriminalization? Do the consider the prison industry in their current numbers? Or will Monsanto make a round-up ready strain and own it all?
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Post by comfortablynumb on Sept 11, 2016 15:39:15 GMT
Pot is like beer. Sure, you can brew cheap decent beer for people to get drunk on and a majority will be happy with that. MOnsanto will be happy.
And good money will be in the micro-growing sector, where you have 10001 varieties for every ailment.
And like booze, nobody will be hunting down anybody for making their own "wine" or "beer". I imagine the legal focus will be on illegal trafficing to avoid taxation.
Like your common thug trying to move a truckload of stolen cigarettes.
The two major fighters against pot are big o'pharma and the private prison system.
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