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Post by shin on Oct 30, 2016 2:11:31 GMT
Cleaning the windows tonight, and I keep checking them in the light, as I picked up part of the cut glass I needed to add some panes to them. Hope I add enough desiccant there isn't much condensation in them, never tried this before. Well not like I can't take them out again and add more if it came to it.
Here's a prayer for hoping to lower heating bills this winter.
It's a bit troublesome examining these windows as I can't clean the outside of them well.. they're too high up and awkward to reach around. Haven't gotten around to cobbling some sort of crooked device to get a squeegee around them in back, so I just keep looking at the front trying to judge if I've gotten all the smudges off.
Anyone tried this before?
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Post by Use Less on Oct 30, 2016 14:42:43 GMT
I am not following what you did to your windows.
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Post by shin on Oct 30, 2016 19:57:22 GMT
Ah, pardon me. Here is how it is. In the cellar I have a bunch of single pane windows. On the first floor, the bathroom is single pane, and the kitchen double pane, these are casement windows -- ones that are just a big pane of glass in a frame with a crank to open and close. They all have wooden frames that easily allow adding another pane of glass in with some caulk, to add more insulation. It's quite a perfect fit.
So what I am doing is taking some cut glass to fit the frames, and adding them on to save on heating bills. Some folks use that saran wrap style kit stuff, this costs hardly much more than those kits, cut glass isn't very expensive as contrasted with entirely new windows.
Last year touch the glass in the bathroom and you could feel where the heating bills were going -- to heat the outdoors.
The main peril is fog or condensation between the new pane and the old ones, due to moisture inbetween them. So I am trying to do what I can to mitigate that, I will try to dry out the air as much as possible when the pane is put in, and add some moisture absorbing desiccant, and see what the results are.
Appearance wise, the basement windows I won't mind if they fog up a bit at times, insulation is more important, and there's plenty of space to add in extra single panes of glass in the holes in the walls there.
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Post by Use Less on Oct 30, 2016 20:46:12 GMT
Ah. Got it. I have used that plastic stuff a couple of times. It is annoying to apply, distorts the view and dust, insects or spider webs build up pretty fast. I would rather tighten up what I can, such as better latches, and use heavier curtains that I can draw or tie back with ease. I have old storms over some old windows, and get condensation on the inside of the storms. For starters, I think the space is too wide between one window and the next, but nothing to do about that in an old house. I was advised to try to tighten all the screws that hold the storms, and to caulk, but not at the bottom, of course, so moisture can drain if that continues. I don't have any casements here, but I do have old single panes in my shed. Fortunately no heat runs, and not planning to add any. Good luck with your project! Report back.
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Post by AD in WNC on Oct 30, 2016 20:54:07 GMT
shin I don't have any experience, but your idea for the extra pane of glass sounds like it should work as well as my storm windows. The addition of the desiccant is really creative! If your goal is to keep outside air outside,then look at all of the places where pipes or wires enter your house and put that spray foam around them to block the air flow. That should help too.
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Post by shin on Oct 30, 2016 21:07:54 GMT
I never knew what those odd aluminum strips with holes in them inbetween the panes of windows were for before I took up this project, it seems that desiccant is kept in them.
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Post by Skandi on Oct 30, 2016 22:59:34 GMT
I don't know what the stuff is but that strip is filled with small offwhite beads, they get everywhere when you break one!
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Post by shin on Oct 31, 2016 1:15:58 GMT
Yes I kept wondering myself after breaking one! Why in the world was that junk there?
It may be the same stuff that's in the little packets in vitamin jars, silica gel, or something else similar, meant to absorb moisture.
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Post by shin on Oct 31, 2016 7:05:01 GMT
As much as I was tempted to use some of the old stuff lying around in packets from vitamin jars, I ordered a new container of desiccant as it might be too old or not enough, yes it looks like a bottle full of little round clear balls, along with some 'ultra' clear caulk, and now have to wait, as eager as I am to get the panes in.
Figure I'll have to make some sort of tube to contain the desiccant inbetween the panes that looks decent. I can see the little things spilling all over the floor already as I fumble about try to get them in some sort of straw.
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