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Post by aoconnor on Jun 8, 2017 12:47:05 GMT
I have watched this "rescue" around the corner from us starve their horses for a couple of years now. They ran about 25 horses on 30 acres. After the first two years there wasn't a blade of grass left, but they never did put out round bales or bothered feeding them grain. So I watched with sadness as the horses, all paints and palominos, started getting thinner and thinner. To make it worse, the people let the stallions breed the mares nad they had several foals on the ground the past couple of years. I finally couldn't take it and called the sheriffs departments in two counties, as these horses were on the border of the two counties. One county did nothing, the other one is who I work closely with to help them with their injured or sick impounds. I guess that my pals at this sheriffs office decided enough was enough, and even though they were out of their jurisdiction, they impounded ALL of those horses.
I have 40 horses, most are rescues that need constant care and a lot of feed. If it came a time I couldn't care for them, I would get the help needed or get them out to those who could care for them better. How completely irresponsible to take in horses that you simply can't feed. Grrr...
ok, rant over, for now.
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Post by solargeek on Jun 8, 2017 13:02:12 GMT
aoconnor, You are to be praised for taking this action. God rewards mightily those who speak and act for all who cannot (especially the least of us-the voiceless animals)
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Post by here to stay on Jun 8, 2017 13:08:31 GMT
I worry over this constantly. If I can't take care of the two horses and two goats, what happens to them? One is 26, not completely sound, has allergies (including to alfalfa), needs a monthly course of psyllium , has hypercementosis. She simply can't be put out to graze.
The other is 17, is sound but missed out on her early training beyond backing and plough reining as I got sick at that point and couldn't ride. Neither is desirable in a good horse market. When horses are hard to give away and hay costs $23 per bale?
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Post by Use Less on Jun 8, 2017 13:15:20 GMT
Getting the authorities involved is good. Maybe better to get Humane Society or even PETA. I know. They can be weirdly rabid, but sometimes that's hat you need. There are well-intentioned folks who don't know what they're getting into with rescues, or when they decide to start a small farm. And then there are collector types whose penchant becomes obsessive. There was a year or two where I was in danger of becoming a poultry addict, but I backed away. And I never neglected to feed, water, build shelters and pen them in at night.
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Post by Woodpecker on Jun 8, 2017 15:53:08 GMT
God will bless you aoconnor, for being such a caring person and proactive for those poor horses. It makes me so sad for the horses and angry at the "rescue." Why are they called a "rescue" , if the horses are being starved? |
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Post by mollymckee on Jun 8, 2017 23:05:09 GMT
Thank you for reporting those horses aoconnor. you did the right thing. I have reported someone that lives on our road, so have other people. She is a repeat offender, but the county does nothing until you get the news people involved. We fed a couple of horses she was starving one winter, in spite of her having a fit about it. We just started putting bales of hay over the fence at night and she was too lazy to go outside. Use Less, the worst possible choice would be to get the Humane Society or PETA involved in anything. They are both much more interested in their own agendas than helping animals. They have both killed animals they "saved", done horrible things to animals, PETA espically. The Humane Society isn't very interested in animals that are not worth selling, PETA spends as little as they can on animals and does things like breaking into labs and breeding facilities and Turing animals loose, outside in the middle of winter to die. You can google them and see the things they do. IMO they are worse than criminal and certainly are not charities. |
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Post by aoconnor on Jun 9, 2017 12:48:16 GMT
Thankfully the horses are safe. I believe that North Texas Humane Society took them all, it I can't be sure and won't know. Once I involved the police my job was done in that deal.
I would never involve PETA, they are a horrid group of people for the most part. A few may be well meaning, but what they do as a whole is pretty bad. I have worked for a good Humane Society shelter in the past, it was great, it not all are like that. Unfortunately, the reality is that a lot of the animals in the shelter environment will get put down. It just is how it is. A no-kill shelter isn't really a no-kill, they do have to put some down or they would run out of room in a month and would no longer be able to any animals at all. At least with horses it is easier to find adoptive homes, it sometimes the adoption fees are outrageous!
I'm hoping those horses find great homes where they can be cared for properly.
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Post by princessferf on Jun 9, 2017 13:17:34 GMT
I have watched this "rescue" around the corner from us starve their horses for a couple of years now. They ran about 25 horses on 30 acres. After the first two years there wasn't a blade of grass left, but they never did put out round bales or bothered feeding them grain. So I watched with sadness as the horses, all paints and palominos, started getting thinner and thinner. To make it worse, the people let the stallions breed the mares nad they had several foals on the ground the past couple of years. I finally couldn't take it and called the sheriffs departments in two counties, as these horses were on the border of the two counties. One county did nothing, the other one is who I work closely with to help them with their injured or sick impounds. I guess that my pals at this sheriffs office decided enough was enough, and even though they were out of their jurisdiction, they impounded ALL of those horses. I have 40 horses, most are rescues that need constant care and a lot of feed. If it came a time I couldn't care for them, I would get the help needed or get them out to those who could care for them better. How completely irresponsible to take in horses that you simply can't feed. Grrr... ok, rant over, for now. It is hard to call the authorities out on someone, but when animals are truly suffering it is the best thing to do. I hope they get the care and feeding they need and can all bounce back to find good homes. |
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Post by shellymay on Jun 9, 2017 15:21:40 GMT
aoconnor, kudos to you..... you did the right thing, yes some may find new homes and some might be put down for health issues, but the suffering will stop! We also have a farm down the road who starves horses during winter months, but every summer their body condition comes back with the spring/summer grasses, so not much I can do about it.....
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Post by aoconnor on Jul 14, 2017 12:28:10 GMT
Can you believe they FINALLY pulled those poor horses? I thought they did a month ago, but found out the owners had just hidden the horses out in a pen behind their trailer, no food given while penned. I was beyond mad when I started seeing horses out again trying to find whatever food they could scrounge up. After many phone calls to several sheriffs and Animal Control in 2 counties, as well as the news, the horses finally got the help they needed. www.fox4news.com/news/267490093-story |
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Post by shellymay on Jul 14, 2017 12:49:41 GMT
aoconnor , those are some very sad looking pictures, just happy to hear that FINALLY they have been removed from her care, Kudos to you for all your efforts in MAKING people aware of this bad situation those horses where in.
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Post by Woodpecker on Jul 14, 2017 13:25:41 GMT
Those poor horses, if not for you aoconnor, they had no hope. YOU saved them! What a beautiful, loving thing to do...they had no one but you.I cannot believe no one else spoke up and that it took so long for them to finally be rescued. Thank God for you. |
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Post by solargeek on Jul 14, 2017 14:51:21 GMT
Those poor horses, if not for you aoconnor, they had no hope. YOU saved them! What a beautiful, loving thing to do...they had no one but you.I cannot believe no one else spoke up and that it took so long for them to finally be rescued. Thank God for you. , Surely you have earned your place in Heaven for saving God's creatures. I cannot say it better than Woodpecker, |
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Post by here to stay on Jul 14, 2017 15:29:03 GMT
I just don't understand why the sheriff's office did not check on them if they said they would. It's so sad that getting a media story is needed to get action. It's not like those horses were borderline- they were starving.
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Post by mollymckee on Jul 14, 2017 17:18:40 GMT
Those horses look terrible, there's not excuse for that. If you need help with rescue in your area, former Tarrent County Sheriff Phil Ryan and his wife are active in rescue. They got involved in a abuse situation north of Houston when no one seemed to do anything and got the horses saved. He is my SIL's uncle so I followed the case when they got involved. Somehow having a long time sheriff and former Tesas Ranger involved seems to get things done, which is too bad, but it works.
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Post by aoconnor on Jul 14, 2017 23:29:09 GMT
Those horses look terrible, there's not excuse for that. If you need help with rescue in your area, former Tarrent County Sheriff Phil Ryan and his wife are active in rescue. They got involved in a abuse situation north of Houston when no one seemed to do anything and got the horses saved. He is my SIL's uncle so I followed the case when they got involved. Somehow having a long time sheriff and former Tesas Ranger involved seems to get things done, which is too bad, but it works. Wow, thanks molliemckee!! Always awesome to have former high officer on my side! If our local sheriff, Sheriff Fowler, was not in the hospital for a double lung transplant he just went through, he would have had those horses out of there. But alas... plus it was out of jurisdiction for my deputy friends who do a lot of rescue. I will keep Phil Ryan and his wife on my contact list:-) |
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Post by countrymom22 on Jul 16, 2017 2:13:53 GMT
I'm glad those horses are going to finally get the care they need. I will never understand how someone who is overwhelmed trying to care for their animals doesn't reach out for help, instead of letting the poor animals suffer. I will never understand that! Good on you aoconnor, for doing what needed to be done to get help for those horses. Too many people turn a blind eye and assume that someone else will call the authorities. And then help comes too late. |
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Post by princessferf on Jul 20, 2017 17:41:39 GMT
Oh my goodness, the photos of their hooves nearly knocked me over. I'm speechless.
Thank you aoconnor for stepping up to help get them out of their bad situation. Even though it seems the prior owner had good intentions... you got to know when you need to ask for help.
I hope the horses are able to bounce back.
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Post by aoconnor on Jul 31, 2017 3:19:18 GMT
princessferf, unfortunately the horses owner did not have good intentions. They took every paint horse mare that they could get, bred them to their "rescued" stallions, and had lots of babies they sold. Up until a few years ago I guess it was a pretty profitable venture, but then the horse market fell out down here and they got stuck with horses they couldn't get rid of. She should never have gotten any to begin with, all she did was let them breed and then sell the foals. I hope she rots.
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Post by princessferf on Jul 31, 2017 16:08:25 GMT
Ahhhh. Well that's a different story. Yeah, she clearly forgot that her "stock" was living creatures, not some pile of inanimate objects.
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Post by here to stay on Jul 31, 2017 21:05:30 GMT
I remember a smaller version of this kind of behavior in the 1970s. Some hotshot accountant found a way to use the ownership if a breeding horse or even offspring if gelded in some cases as a tax write off. This caught on like a wildfire among Arab owners. It got to the point they were sydicating crappy stallions so many could share in the million dollar 'value' of a stud - really just a fake tax write off. They fictitiously sold each other breeding stock at ridiculously inflated prices to be able to take a huge, largely false write off as a business expense to offset personal income from taxes.
This activity inflated the price of all Arabs so that people bred anything, no matter how poor quality, because everything could be sold to those looking to keep up with the big players in the Arab associations at ridiculous prices.
Then the IRS closed most of the loopholes, arrested a few and got penalties and back taxes from others. The Arab horse market collapsed overnight. Leaving hundreds of thousands of unwanted Arabs to be abandoned and starved. It took decades for the number to shrink enough that purebred, registered Arabs ceased to be worth less than a grade horse.
I hate horse fads, unscrupulous trainers and owners and greedy breed registers.
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