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Post by Use Less on Apr 26, 2018 21:49:46 GMT
I have an old patch of tiger lilies that has lost circumference rather rapidly the last couple of years. Not sure how long they've been there. Pretty sure my parents dug a spadeful and brought home. These grow like weeds along the roadsides and in woods just beyond all over the place here. No obvious pests; the leaves come up and they bloom well. I remove the spent blooms so they don't go to seed, but I don't cut the flower stems back till they are all dried up in late fall. As common as they are, I really like them. Help!!
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Post by here to stay on Apr 26, 2018 22:16:30 GMT
Here our local versions of tiger lilies grow along the edges of the woods. Neither the shade nor direct sun. Could your plant's sun changed over the years.
Then lilies are sensative to overcrowding. Maybe they just need to spread out and thinned. If they get overcrowded they can become susceptible to diseases. Do the bulbs look ok at the edges where they are disappearing?
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Post by northerngardener on Apr 27, 2018 1:16:43 GMT
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Post by Use Less on Apr 27, 2018 1:36:01 GMT
They are day lilies. Those orange ones. |
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Post by paquebot on Apr 27, 2018 2:02:25 GMT
Best to leave wild tiger lillies be. They need damp soil without being wet, if that makes sense. Needs to be constantly damp starting at a couple feet deep but dry above. Kept some for years near a downspout. Martin |
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Post by here to stay on Apr 27, 2018 3:30:11 GMT
Use Less, I'm now confused. Daylily and tigerlily are way different plants. Frankly I always thought nothing could kill an old fashion daylily while tiger lilies were a bit finicky.
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Post by vickilynn on Apr 27, 2018 10:27:02 GMT
Use Less , I'm now confused. Daylily and tigerlily are way different plants. Frankly I always thought nothing could kill an old fashion daylily while tiger lilies were a bit finicky. Folks call the ditch lilies "tiger lilies," but they really are not true tiger lilies. They are daylilies. www.oardc.ohio-state.edu/weedguide/single_weed.php?id=37 |
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Post by Use Less on Apr 27, 2018 12:52:42 GMT
Wow, never thought this would get so complicated  These are day lilies. The original planting likely was a clump my folks dug up along a road somewhere. Already moved years ago, so leaving them on the roadside is not an option. They are the orange ones where each trumpet blooms once. In my region they are called tiger lilies; my folks were from opposite sides of PA, and they called 'em tiger lilies, too. I cut small clumps off the sides of the big one last year and moved those a few feet. They are all in a half-moon shaped garden in the center of the yard. It also has a couple of moderately tall Rose of Sharon bushes and a lot of daffodils. Almost none of my yard gets full sun due to how the houses are situated east-west of each other, and how tall my house is. Only one side of the yard is more-or-less full shade though, and that's not where the lilies are. |
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Post by Woodpecker on Apr 27, 2018 14:09:28 GMT
I have day lilies also that were planted in the late 1980's. Many have spread near the driveway. The other three spots we had them in, only one has increased over the years. I do nothing special for them. They open for the one day, that's it.
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Post by vickilynn on Apr 27, 2018 14:28:18 GMT
My great grandpa's farm was at the corner of two roads, with a quarter mile lane from each road back to the house. One of the lanes had these lilies lining both sides in the ditch. It was so gorgeous when they bloomed. The farmer who owns this farm now plowed up this lane. No more lilies.  |
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Post by Melissa on Apr 27, 2018 15:11:05 GMT
Let them go to seed. They grow from tubers and seeds. You can also dig a big shovelful out of the middle and move them to a new location. Everyone here in SE Ohio calls them tiger lilies too! www.americanmeadows.com/perennials/daylily/daylily-original-orange?adpos=1o1&scid=scplp2669&sc_intid=2669&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIvaK07t3a2gIVBIezCh0giQyqEAQYASABEgLL0vD_BwEThe story of the original wild orange Daylily. First of all, it isn't really wild. It isn't native to North America. And it isn't really a lily. Daylilies have the genus name Hemerocallis, not Lilium, the genus name of the true lilies. And Daylilies don't grow from bulbs like true lilies, either. However, they do grow from a mass of thickened roots that hold so much moisture and nutrients, the plants can survive out of the ground for weeks. This survival system is the main reason the Daylily has been such a world traveler.
The famous old orange Daylily is named Hemerocallis fulva, and is native to China, Japan and Korea, but today is common all over the world. The buds have been cooked for food for centuries in Asia, but the flowers are what people love in North America. (Here, its often mistakenly called Tiger Lily, but that's the name of a taller true lily, not a Daylily. Both are orange.) The famous old orange one is not the only wild Daylily, just the most famous. There are 20 Daylily species, worldwide. From these 20 plants, more than 20,000 hybrids have been created
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Post by here to stay on Apr 27, 2018 15:59:47 GMT
What are called tiger lilies here-  I think this is the worst confusion over plant common names I have ever had. |
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Post by Melissa on Apr 27, 2018 19:37:29 GMT
Sometimes we just call them orange lilies. They grow like dandelions around here- literally every road has them alongside it.
We also call soda- pop and creeks- cricks! Bunch of hillbillies around here... lol |
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Post by vickilynn on Apr 27, 2018 19:49:40 GMT
We called them ditch lilies because they grow profusely in our deep ditches. Pop and cricks here too!
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Post by woolybear on Apr 27, 2018 22:16:43 GMT
LOL we always called them "outhouse" lilies. Seemed like where ever there was an outhouse there would be a bunch of these around the building.
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Post by Skandi on Apr 27, 2018 22:47:03 GMT
I have day lilies two types both growing in a garden that was neglected for at least 5 years. both clumps are in areas that were in deep shade for 10-15 years, they are now in half sun (from around midday) My ground is very wet so they never dry out. The distinction between day and tiger lilies is important if you want to eat them!
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Post by bowdonkey on Apr 28, 2018 12:11:00 GMT
What are called tiger lilies here- I think this is the worst confusion over plant common names I have ever had. Those are Turks cap lilies.  |
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Post by here to stay on Apr 28, 2018 16:08:01 GMT
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Post by here to stay on Apr 28, 2018 16:16:34 GMT
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Post by hermitjohn on Apr 28, 2018 18:43:28 GMT
I grew up in Iowa, they were in nearly every rural road ditch. Well until counties and farmers got to doing the heavy duty spraying.
Not common here in Ozarks, but after reading you could eat the young leaves, I bought some from person in OK. I had seen them grow in SE Kansas so knew they probably survive here. Person sent these teeny tiny tubers. I planted a row and they grew. Deer however love the things and kept them trimmed low. Heavy infertile clay and it seriously dries out. They survived, look the best they have this spring, but still too small to bloom though they are spreading out a bit.
I am sure they would do much better in fertile soil with regular watering. LOL Seriously it took some really toxic chemicals to kill them in Iowa. One of those things that once established just very hard to kill. I tasted some, ok, kinda bland. Think you would only want to eat the leaves in spring. The petals and tubers probably anytime. Once you get big patch established, doubt you ever starve...
Tiger lilies I am familiar with do have black spots though apparently name tiger lily means lot different things to lot different people. Lilium lancifolium is kind I know. Not sure why tiger and not leopard but whatever. Suppose the orange and black color even if black spots and not black stripes.
EDIT: You know more I think about it the tiger lilies I remember had blossom pointing up not down. So guess not lilium lancifolium. Must be the Hemerocallis fulva that Melllisa mentions. Though I remember some black spots on them. Like say ones I have are too small to bloom, but must be edible as I ate some with no ill effects and foliage is like the old tiger lily I remember. Thinking I did get a free oriental lily one time that did hang its head, had different foliage. Pretty sure it wasnt edible. It only survived two years. Not hardy here.
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Post by bowdonkey on Apr 29, 2018 1:37:29 GMT
I think you all are trying to confuse me. I found the flower pods best cooked or steamed, then butter and S&P or Ume vinegar and pepper. I thought they were pretty good. In a big patch you could gather alot without alot of effort. And with condiments, good to very good. I don't care for them raw.
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Post by willowgirl on Apr 30, 2018 10:45:08 GMT
No need to do this, as the the common orange daylilies are actually a sterile variety that don't set seeds! They are propagated only by division, which means that ALL of those plants you see growing along the roadsides originated from a single plant!
Now, as to your problem, I'd guess that some trees that were planted around the original lily patch have matured over the years, gotten larger and shaded the lilies out. The lilies also are being forced to compete with the trees for moisture, and are probably losing out. Thin the trees, relocated the lilies and/or provide supplemental water (and nutrients).
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Post by Use Less on Apr 30, 2018 11:49:09 GMT
No need to do this, as the the common orange daylilies are actually a sterile variety that don't set seeds! They are propagated only by division, which means that ALL of those plants you see growing along the roadsides originated from a single plant! Now, as to your problem, I'd guess that some trees that were planted around the original lily patch have matured over the years, gotten larger and shaded the lilies out. The lilies also are being forced to compete with the trees for moisture, and are probably losing out. Thin the trees, relocated the lilies and/or provide supplemental water (and nutrients). Nope, no trees right around them. Two large trees were removed from opposite sides of the yard, but neither shaded the area where the lilies are growing. That's interesting info about the seeds, though. |
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Post by countrymom22 on May 1, 2018 1:35:38 GMT
Wow! I learn something new on here every day! Thanks for all the info.
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These are day lilies. The original planting likely was a clump my folks dug up along a road somewhere. Already moved years ago, so leaving them on the roadside is not an option. They are the orange ones where each trumpet blooms once. In my region they are called tiger lilies; my folks were from opposite sides of PA, and they called 'em tiger lilies, too. I cut small clumps off the sides of the big one last year and moved those a few feet. They are all in a half-moon shaped garden in the center of the yard. It also has a couple of moderately tall Rose of Sharon bushes and a lot of daffodils. Almost none of my yard gets full sun due to how the houses are situated east-west of each other, and how tall my house is. Only one side of the yard is more-or-less full shade though, and that's not where the lilies are. 
