vegan slaughter house

[feather]

And here is a vegan slaughter house.

It looks good to me.

I miss watermelon in winter.

[feather]

Try to cut down on red meat consumption to twice a week. My carnivores eat red meat at least as much if not more than that.
www.msn.com/en-us/health/nutrition/health-matters-the-truth-about-red-meat/ar-BBQh0xX?li=BBnb4R7

[feather]

I was really wondering if I got enough protein since I went to no-meat vegetarian. And this was what I found out! I found out that I'm worried about the wrong thing!
I thought Cabin Fever and Wind in Her Hair would like this one too.

nutritionfacts.org/video/do-vegetarians-get-enough-protein/

nutritionfacts.org/video/do-vegetarians-get-enough-protein/

[Woodpecker]

Interesting info feather, seems they keep changing what’s good for us and what isn’t. So, I worried I wasn’t getting enough protein, mainly for my muscles😋 we don’t eat meat or fish, but two, sometimes three times a week. I get plenty of fiber though, so I guess I don’t need to worry about protein anymore. They sure do make things confusing!

[feather]

Enough protein. If you eat meat on an average 2000 kcalorie diet, and you eat a piece of meat the size of a deck of cards plus everything else, you get about 50-60 grams of protein in your diet. That's about the correct amount a male adult needs on a 2000 kcalorie diet.

If you eat a vegan diet, you get more than enough protein from the vegetables, fruit, and grain.

So I ran into a video on a guy in Australia that decided to eat potatoes every day for 1 year. He ate 6 lbs of potatoes per day. He didn't add oils, but he occasionally put some ketchup on them, or chili/bbq sauce, or mashed them with soy milk. A person that eats 6 lbs of potatoes gets 55 grams of protein. He lost a LOT of weight in one year. (60 lbs or 100 lbs, some ridiculous amount)

A person that eats a 1500 kcalorie diet, if they just eat broccoli they eat 45 cups of broccoli ( ) and they get 108 grams of protein. So if you mix it up and eat vegan, you are probably get more than enough protein.

The only thing needed to possibly supplement a vegan diet, is some B12.

John McDougall has a couple hundred videos free online, and a website, free, and recipes, free and he's been educating doctors and the public for 40 years on the vegan diet and healing through diet. I read today, that he is retiring from doctoring. Pretty interesting stuff.

[willowgirl]

He lost a LOT of weight in one year. (60 lbs or 100 lbs, some ridiculous amount)

I'd slather them with butter and gain a ton ...

[Mari-in-IN]

Dec 30, 2018 0:04:09 GMT willowgirl said:

He lost a LOT of weight in one year. (60 lbs or 100 lbs, some ridiculous amount)

I'd slather them with butter and gain a ton ...

Hear! Hear! 
Oh, and I would also have to add good sized dollops of sour cream as well! 

[feather]

I don't know,I was thinking about that, since I would usually use butter or sour cream and decided to make that garlic sauce. It's soaked cashews blended in a blender with fresh garlic and salt. Even though it's all vegan, only a tablespoon of it could be used to keep the oils at 10% or less. It's a delicious sauce even if you don't care about plant food vs animal protein/fat.

Just that little bit of garlic sauce can make or break some plain boiled cubed potatoes, for me.

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I put broccoli and italian dressing on my baked potatoes when I want a healthy potato. Makes a great lunch.

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[feather]

It's come to my attention that everyone here, is a vegetarian.

Do you believe me? Do you agree?

WPFB diet, whole plant food based diet with no oil, no sugar, no salt. No animal products plus no extras. That's no dairy, no oils, no eggs, no fish, no chicken, no meat.

Then, there's:

Vegan, a vegetarian that eats plant food shunning all animal products, eating all kinds of processed foods with added sugar, oil, salt, often substituting 'fake meats', to replace some animal products, usually made with wheat gluten or soy. Some people call this a transitional diet, to replace meat with something like meat.

When I say shunning, I mean rejecting certain animal products.

Then:

Vegetarians eat vegetables.

Pesco vegetarians eat fish and seafood.

Ovo vegetarians eat eggs.

Lacto vegetarians eat dairy products.

Vegetarians combine any of these methods.

Then:

SAD diet, Standard American Diet, vegetables, grain, legumes, nuts, seeds, meat, poultry, fish, dairy, oils, salt, sugar and all kinds of commonly found processed foods. (that are being marketed and shoved down your throats) In the SAD diet, human meat is shunned, therefore, the SAD diet is a type of vegetarian diet. I don't mean to exclude standard 'other country diets' but I'm betting those diets also shun human meat.

Do you all feel healthier now that you know you are a vegetarian of some sort?

Here's an article about vegetarianism all the way back to Pythagoras.

www.history.com/news/beans-and-greens-the-history-of-vegetarianism

Notable early vegetarians included Leo Tolstoy, George Bernard Shaw, Mahatma Gandhi and American Bronson Alcott, a Transcendentalist teacher, reformer and the father of “Little Women” author Louisa May Alcott.

Yesterday I celebrated my first full month of WPFB diet, no dairy, no overt oils. A whole month. I have less joint pain and my skin is nicer and I'm still a smart ass.

[Ken]

Jan 29, 2019 22:14:13 GMT feather said:

...
Then:

Vegetarians eat vegetables.

Pesco vegetarians eat fish and seafood.

Ovo vegetarians eat eggs.

Lacto vegetarians eat dairy products.

Vegetarians combine any of these methods.

Then:

SAD diet, Standard American Diet, vegetables, grain, legumes, nuts, seeds, meat, poultry, fish, dairy, oils, salt, sugar and all kinds of commonly found processed foods. (that are being marketed and shoved down your throats) In the SAD diet, human meat is shunned, therefore, the SAD diet is a type of vegetarian diet. I don't mean to exclude standard 'other country diets' but I'm betting those diets also shun human meat.

So, sticking with the latin naming convention, we would be Homo vegetarians.

Somehow, I don't think that one will pass the political correctness filter.




EDIT: actually, I guess I had it backwards, the latin name is the type allowed, not excluded.  *shrug*  It's been a long day. 

[feather]

Ken , homo vegetarians. Yes, that seems right, thank you!

Yes I see what you mean. So it would be anti-homo SAD vegetarians. The naming convention might otherwise be beef-chicken-pork-fish-dairy-egg-roadkill vegetarians.

[Cabin Fever]

Dec 6, 2018 19:41:42 GMT feather said:

I was really wondering if I got enough protein since I went to no-meat vegetarian. And this was what I found out! I found out that I'm worried about the wrong thing!
I thought Cabin Fever and Wind in Her Hair would like this one too.

nutritionfacts.org/video/do-vegetarians-get-enough-protein/

nutritionfacts.org/video/do-vegetarians-get-enough-protein/

We haven't eaten meat in one year. We get plenty of protein from plants, just like hippos, cattle, gorillas, and horses to. 

Potatoes get a bad wrap for being unhealthy when, in fact, they are very healthy to eat. What is unhealthy is all the stuff people put on potatoes.

We look forward to trying this potato recipe tonight: Cornmeal Crusted Baked Potatoes

[feather]

Cabin Fever, potato wedges baked at 400 deg F on some silpat--brown nicely with nothing on them. I had some yesterday with honey-ketchup and vinegar.

I also tried potato wedges with just a tablespoon of thinned out nut butter slathered on them, then dipped in bread crumbs--those turned out really nice too.
(any nut, like cashews, or sunflowers, or sesame seeds, or walnuts, or peanuts, whipped up with spices/herbs/garlic and water--will work for potatoes and even onion rings)

I'm only 8 months meat free. Somehow that part didn't seem difficult at all. Stopping fish, dairy, eggs, and oil, that's more challenging but I'm getting used to it.

[Cabin Fever]

Jan 30, 2019 14:50:39 GMT feather said:

Cabin Fever , potato wedges baked at 400 deg F on some silpat--brown nicely with nothing on them. I had some yesterday with honey-ketchup and vinegar.

I also tried potato wedges with just a tablespoon of thinned out nut butter slathered on them, then dipped in bread crumbs--those turned out really nice too.
(any nut, like cashews, or sunflowers, or sesame seeds, or walnuts, or peanuts, whipped up with spices/herbs/garlic and water--will work for potatoes and even onion rings)

I'm only 8 months meat free. Somehow that part didn't seem difficult at all. Stopping fish, dairy, eggs, and oil, that's more challenging but I'm getting used to it.

We have been roasting potato and sweet potato wedges with nothing on them for past year. We roast them on parchment paper. Even then, they come out quite crispy and tasty.

Congrats on your eight months!

[feather]

Thanks Cabin Fever, and congratulations with your year! There is so much to learn in cooking this way, I'm sure I'll be learning new things a year from now.

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Oh no another vegan about to be born. They are already being trashed in headlines. www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/meghan-markle-prince-harry-reportedly-174759840.html

One more international tragedy.

[Ken]

Apr 10, 2019 1:36:27 GMT feather said:

Oh no another vegan about to be born. They are already being trashed in headlines. www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/meghan-markle-prince-harry-reportedly-174759840.html

One more international tragedy.

The royals have to abide by many rules, even including what they can and can't eat. One thing they are instructed not to eat is garlic, because garlic breath is real and not-so-cute when your job requires a lot of talking.
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Tragic indeed!  Garlic has many health benefits, not to mention it can add great flavor to foods.