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Post by hengal on May 21, 2015 12:17:44 GMT
My 5 year old Nigerian wether is a mess right now. He has lost the hair around his eyes, has horrible dandruff and is losing hair on the belly and up under his "armpits". Some of these areas are becoming red and a bit gummy. I have never seen him refuse food ever but he did this morning. I do believe this is a mineral deficiency problem that he had a couple of years ago. At that time it was recommended I switch their minerals to Cargill Right Now Onyx minerals, which I was able to find. He cleared up and has been pretty good ever since. I have not been able to find these minerals now for a few months as the supplier I used cannot get them any longer from Cargill. They have been getting Manna Pro minerals, which must not be enough for him. Out of my three boys, he is the only one who seem very suseptible to things like this. I'm going to call Cargill directly today to see how to get more of these minerals.
My question now is - is there anything topical I could use on him today that would help "cool down" his skin and relieve itch or burning he is going through? Do I need to call the large animal vet? The not eating really has me worried. He is a mess. Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much.
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Post by aoconnor on May 21, 2015 12:30:27 GMT
I don't know for goats, but I use an oil spray called "Calm Coat" when my dogs or horses have rashes or are itching. Hope he gets some relief.
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Post by mzgarden on May 21, 2015 13:35:14 GMT
Here's my 2 cents: Quick steps:
-I would give the boy a bath using a medicated shampoo - like Mane & Tail medicated. This can bring some quick relief and remove any build up of dirt, oils, dry skin, etc.
-On the skin areas that are irritated *not around the eyes* treat with Vetericyn. We use a spray and then if it needs to get through their coat, we use rubber gloves and gently stroke the coat backward and spray closes to the skin, gently rubbing it in. If the skin is exposed, no need to do any rubbing in and creating more irritation.
-Have you wormed recently? If not, I'd worm him today. I have been happy using Ivomec drench treatment doses so far and we've found it works if the goat has lice or other skin parasites (not just for worms).
-Have you bolused him for copper deficiency? We bolus ours every 6 months, even though they have free choice minerals. Some goats are just more likely to become copper deficient, even with quality minerals available. Problem with bolus is it can take about a month to show improvements.
At any point in time you may need to call in a vet. Remembering that goats are prey animals and tend to 1) hide their weaknesses so by the time you find them, they can be pretty far down the road and 2) go downhill fast - mostly (in my experience) because of #1 above. If you have BoSe (Rx), I'd give it. If you don't, I'd consider getting a vet involved.
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Post by manygoatsnmore on May 21, 2015 22:00:02 GMT
Here's my 2 cents: Quick steps: -I would give the boy a bath using a medicated shampoo - like Mane & Tail medicated. This can bring some quick relief and remove any build up of dirt, oils, dry skin, etc. -On the skin areas that are irritated *not around the eyes* treat with Vetericyn. We use a spray and then if it needs to get through their coat, we use rubber gloves and gently stroke the coat backward and spray closes to the skin, gently rubbing it in. If the skin is exposed, no need to do any rubbing in and creating more irritation. -Have you wormed recently? If not, I'd worm him today. I have been happy using Ivomec drench treatment doses so far and we've found it works if the goat has lice or other skin parasites (not just for worms). -Have you bolused him for copper deficiency? We bolus ours every 6 months, even though they have free choice minerals. Some goats are just more likely to become copper deficient, even with quality minerals available. Problem with bolus is it can take about a month to show improvements. At any point in time you may need to call in a vet. Remembering that goats are prey animals and tend to 1) hide their weaknesses so by the time you find them, they can be pretty far down the road and 2) go downhill fast - mostly (in my experience) because of #1 above. If you have BoSe (Rx), I'd give it. If you don't, I'd consider getting a vet involved. Second all of this! ^^^^
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2015 12:11:25 GMT
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Post by hengal on May 22, 2015 21:12:08 GMT
Thanks everyone. Called the vet and picked up Ivermec injection which I gave him last night. Holy cow you would thought he was dying the way he screamed. It was awful. He has to have a B-12 injection once a day for three days, of course after last night there was no way I was going to give him the one of those until today. Also was able to find a new supplier for their good minerals (Cargill Onyx). Also sprayed the bald areas I could get to with Vetricyn and will continue. Really hope this combo will help him.
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Post by Bear Foot Farm on May 23, 2015 1:44:00 GMT
Ivomec can be given orally (and works better that way) for worms.
Most any good farm supply store sells a bottle for around $40-50 and it has a shelf life of over two years when stored properly
Tractor Supply has all the syringes needed for measuring
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2015 15:22:46 GMT
You can give the B vitamins orally as well. Double up the dose, though, to make it more available.
Good that you could get the Onyx. If it ever happens that you can't get it again, though, my goats do very well on Replamin Plus.
If you're in an area that is copper and selenium deficient, you may still have to copper bolus and give semi-annual injections of BoSe.
How's your little one doing today?
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Post by aoconnor on May 26, 2015 16:00:13 GMT
The Ivermec injection stings terribly. I would give orally if possible.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2015 15:26:37 GMT
How's your buddy doing today, hengal?
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