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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2015 4:58:44 GMT
Ok I know it is just me but seems Farmers are much Lazier than they were when I was a Kid.
Everyone went to Beef Cattle, no Dairies, no Grain Farming, I must admit here in the Ozarks, each year it requires picking rocks off the fields. Everyone puts up Large Bales which are easier to feed than the way we did but talked with a Guy that was feeding 20 Big Bales a day talking about how hard it was.
When we was feeding Square Bales, most of it was fed in Bunks and yes during Mud Season it could get interesting. We would feed out around 3 Big Truck Loads a day and it for most part required 2 people. We did feed most our Grain and we cut Silage each year.
I had a crew putting up Hay for me. Had first Barn they could back Truck up into the Loft, they asked where they was going after this Barn was full? I pointed up the hill to my other Barn. Oh we don't have no Hay Elevator. I told them I guess they would just have to throw it up there. They quit.
Rockpile
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Post by karenp on Jun 9, 2015 10:38:24 GMT
This is the first summer my 17 y/o son has been able to look for a summer job. He didn't have transportation past summers. We live near the beach so lots of places have help wanted signs out. Many tell him to apply on line. He has applied for dozens of jobs, he has only been called twice for interviews. Most places don't even acknowledge his application. The kid wants to work and does plenty around here, but he can't get a call back.
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Post by bergere on Jun 9, 2015 12:30:14 GMT
Used to be, you could find teens willing to take care of horses, clean pastures and so on. I know I did as a kid, feeding and cleaning up after horses, weeding and tending gardens..etc.. But now a days... finding anyone to do this kind of work is hard, then they want a lot more money than mini wage... if they show up... if they do any work at all.
Could use some more help now and again, but its not worth the frustration. Most kids just want things handed to them and to play video games.
Luckily DS is bunking at home while going to College to get two 4 year degrees. Part of his room and board is doing the heavy farm work I can no longer do. He has two more years to go.
My son and my friend's children, always helped with farm chores. What they did, depended on their ages of course. As they got older, they were responsible to get certain things done.
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Post by terrilynn on Jun 9, 2015 13:11:28 GMT
Used to be, you could find teens willing to take care of horses, clean pastures and so on. I know I did as a kid, feeding and cleaning up after horses, weeding and tending gardens..etc.. But now a days... finding anyone to do this kind of work is hard, then they want a lot more money than mini wage... if they show up... if they do any work at all. Your right about that! My 14 year old son helps a lady who lives down the road with a hobby farm. She has a miniature milk cow, a horse, a couple of pigs, a couple of sheep, chickens, geese and ducks. She has my son come down every couple of weeks for catch up work. Stuff she needs done but just physically can't do herself. One day he shoveled manure from the stalls in the barn (all winters worth) into her manure spreader so she could spread it on her little hay plot. Another time she had him crawl under a small shed (in the mud) to fix an leaking water pipe (he got paid extra for that). He is willing to do whatever she needs, and is a hard worker and wants to work. She has had trouble finding help so is very appreciative of his efforts. So much that she not only pays him (Usually $7 an hour, for the crawling in the mud he made $10 an hour lol) but also sends a gallon of her wonderful raw milk home with him every time he works and then to top if off, she feeds him...and its usually fast food (which he never gets so he LOVES it!) and also takes him to the gas station and gets him the biggest fountain pop they have (also something he really never gets at home). He has one other friend in school who also is willing to do this kind of work, but no one else he knows will....they have their video games, and allowances and turn their noses up at anything physical.
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Post by Mari-in-IN on Jun 9, 2015 19:59:03 GMT
The farmer I help out every summer has been very blessed it seems. Talked to him today-has been hiring kids for the past 35 years and has always been fortunate to be able to find kids that want to work and make good $$. Not all of them have been farmkids either... Baling hay and getting it into the haymow is no easy task! ~Mari
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Post by Awnry Abe on Jun 10, 2015 2:40:40 GMT
Ok I know it is just me but seems Farmers are much Lazier than they were when I was a Kid.
I had a crew putting up Hay for me. Had first Barn they could back Truck up into the Loft, they asked where they was going after this Barn was full? I pointed up the hill to my other Barn. At least they couldn't accuse you of not lifting a finger.
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Post by Rustaholic on Jun 10, 2015 12:59:42 GMT
My stepfather worked me like I was his slave. He hated me and never said a kind word to me. BUT he made me strong and I did learn to work hard. Both of those have served me well.
Even in 4th grade when a huge 6th grade bully was standing there telling me he was going to kill me. I didn't come up to his shoulders. I figured I wouldn't go down without a fight so I hit him with all my might right in the Adams apple. I almost killed him. He was on the ground with his hands at his throat, eyes blank and wide oped and not breathing or even blinking. He looked dead but I just stood over him pointing at his chest and after almost two minutes with a very rasping sound he took a breath and blinked his eyes. I nodded and looked up. The whole playground was quiet. It was full of kids all looking at me with their eyes wide open and mouths open. That huge bully was never a bully again. Two weeks later I came around a corner and he was heading right for me. He turned right and got out of my way. Look at it this way. It was soon after school had started that year and all summer I had been working hard while he had been watching TV. None of the other big kids would mess with me either. That guy had ruled them with an iron fist and I took him out. I think it really sunk in how close I came to killing that bully. Them seeing the plain humble guy he turned into did the trick for me to stay the toughest kid in the school.
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Post by wildhorseluvr on Jun 10, 2015 13:55:42 GMT
Rustaholic, I'm sorry you had to grow up under those circumstances. DH undoubtedly was worked very hard at times, but what a difference love and kind words can make! I'm sorry you didn't have that. I'm sure many of us were forced to deal with various unhappy or even dangerous situations during childhood. It makes me think of that old saying, "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger." You're an example of that. I know my DH's step-dad was rough on him at times, DH being the eldest child, times were hard right after WWII, and my DMil said her DH never got over being a sergeant. But he was never abusive. DH loved him and when his step-dad started having serious health problems, DH bought the farm from them and took care of them both until they passed away.
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Post by willowgirl on Jun 12, 2015 2:59:27 GMT
This is the first summer my 17 y/o son has been able to look for a summer job. He didn't have transportation past summers. We live near the beach so lots of places have help wanted signs out. Many tell him to apply on line. He has applied for dozens of jobs, he has only been called twice for interviews. Most places don't even acknowledge his application. The kid wants to work and does plenty around here, but he can't get a call back. The first job is always the hardest to land, because with no work experience, you're an unknown quantity -- the boss has nothing to go on. You could be the hardest worker in the world, or a total dud -- it's hard enough to tell from an application., let alone one that doesn't list any prior experience. Does your son have friends who are working and would anyone be willing to put in a good word for him? The old "It isn't what you know, it's who you know," always applies, and if his friends are good workers, the boss may look favorably upon his application.
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Post by bowdonkey on Jun 12, 2015 11:44:47 GMT
I wish I knew how to post pictures. I got one of 5 young women and 4 guys refurbishing their chainsaws and brush saws after a day in the woods doing some routine "timber stand improvement". I guess I'm lucky, the kids I work with are motivated and smart. I know them good enough to know a whip would never work. They have a personal drive that motivates them. I really believe I work with some of the best. And no rhyme or reason to their motivation, they come from all over, all backgrounds. I'll go as far to say that most of the people who complain about youth THAT I KNOW, wouldn't, couldn't hold a candle to the ones I associate with. Even when they where in their prime!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2015 0:15:44 GMT
My oldest grandson is working with his dad doing roofing this summer. He's earning money to fix up the truck his grandpa left him. ( Its a 1964, Its my age!) He, his brother and their dad also help bring in square bales for a neighbor and get paid in hay for their horses. This said, they also whine like babies when told to do their chores and are total slobs.
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Post by Rustaholic on Jun 15, 2015 0:34:11 GMT
Rustaholic, I'm sorry you had to grow up under those circumstances. DH undoubtedly was worked very hard at times, but what a difference love and kind words can make! I'm sorry you didn't have that. I'm sure many of us were forced to deal with various unhappy or even dangerous situations during childhood. It makes me think of that old saying, "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger." You're an example of that. I know my DH's step-dad was rough on him at times, DH being the eldest child, times were hard right after WWII, and my DMil said her DH never got over being a sergeant. But he was never abusive. DH loved him and when his step-dad started having serious health problems, DH bought the farm from them and took care of them both until they passed away. I am very happy for your DH and the fact that his step-father was rough but a lot nicer than mine was. The closest my step-father ever came to saying something nice to me was when I was 8 years old we had cut and shocked our first corn crop and now we were starting to husk it out. It was cold and a bit wet with a North wind blowing in my face the first night because he sat down first and took the end of the husking table so he would have the wind at his back. He also grabbed the husking peg with the leather on it to protect him from blisters. It was miserable that first evening as we worked until it was too dark to see.
The second evening I got out there first and sat on the good end, flipped up my hood, grabbed the better husking peg and had a quarter bushel or so of corn husked out when he got there. He said, "Well, It looks like we finally found something you like to do." If you read that in a snotty way you got it right. It still was the nicest thing he ever said to me. I was just knowing I HAD to do it so I can be more comfortable if I always get there first.
BTW today and yesterday I was running both with the engine and with the hand crank that old 1892 sheller of mine. It was a family reunion and they wanted to see it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2015 14:56:32 GMT
Its impossible to find any kid around here who wants to work a few hours here and there as their schedule permits. Things like cleaning gutters, mowing the yard, on a rider, and any other thing we may need help with. We pay 10 to 15 dollars per hour and just cant find anyone. Wished you were my neighbor.
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Post by whisperwindkat on Jun 30, 2015 12:28:10 GMT
There have been many times I have needed some good strong young men to help with some work around here. Even among our homeschool group of big strapping young boys I get no response to my inquiries. That's ok, my girls and I can probably outwork most men and boys these days. My oldest will work anywhere anytime if she is earning money. She takes every job she can get and none is too small or large. She gets lots of little jobs from older people in the community because she says that the other kids don't want to do them because they don't take long so they don't pay much at one time. You wouldn't believe the amount of money she has saved up because of 10.00 here or 15.00 there. I am proud of her because she has learned that no job is worth turning down no matter how small it is.
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Post by willowgirl on Jul 4, 2015 17:43:56 GMT
Doing a small job well may lead to being entrusted with bigger jobs later.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2015 0:23:42 GMT
Got to admit two jobs I had didn't last long. One was milking 250 head. The guy wouldn't let me take my wife to the hospital after being kicked by a cow.
Other was pulling bull hides out of salt brine middle of Winter.
Rockpile
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Post by Rustaholic on Jul 6, 2015 13:48:41 GMT
Got to admit two jobs I had didn't last long. One was milking 250 head. The guy wouldn't let me take my wife to the hospital after being kicked by a cow. Other was pulling bull hides out of salt brine middle of Winter. Rockpile Good for you Rock Pile. My sweet wife sure would be a lot more important to me than his cows or the job.
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Post by wally on Jul 10, 2015 19:38:14 GMT
I got lucky, was talking with a lady early this week and told her I needed some one to help with misc chores, As it turned out her daughter is home for the summer from college and would like to make a little cash. I agreed to pay her 15 per hour and now my gutters are clean,the dropped fruit in the orchard is clean. Over the weekend DW and myself will have an other list of jobs she can do..I told her to help herself to the veggies in the garden, but she said she felt like the cash was enough..We sure are glad to of found a worker like her.
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Post by Rustaholic on Jul 11, 2015 0:52:44 GMT
Sounds like you really did find a great helper. It really is a shame they are so hard to find now.
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