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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2015 22:15:43 GMT
I went to an estate auction today, and bought a large lot of rough sawn poplar for not much money.
Almost all of it is 2" thick.
Most of it is 8 feet long, 6 and 8 inch widths. I have not measure it, but would guess, just from an eyeball glance, that it is 8-quarter stock.
Air dried. This stock has been in the garage for many years.
Pretty decent stock, but not top of the line.
What is it worth?
How much would it cost to buy it from a mill or shop? Board or linear prices?
Thanks!!!
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Post by Mari-in-IN on Jun 13, 2015 22:54:45 GMT
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Post by sawmilljim on Jun 14, 2015 3:55:23 GMT
That is higher than a kite and not the same thing the op has . Kiln dried ,4s select ect . Most all the poplar here about's goes in pallet stock from around 35 cents a bf I could only dream of such price as $2.50 bf . |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2015 12:49:47 GMT
Thanks for the replies.
This is much better than pallet stock...but the variation between .35 and 3.00 per bf is quite a spread. Now that I think about it, it probably was kiln dried.
I am sorry that I gave the impression that it was junk stock. It is pretty nice material, but I have seen better.
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Post by sawmilljim on Jun 15, 2015 16:14:37 GMT
Thanks for the replies. This is much better than pallet stock...but the variation between .35 and 3.00 per bf is quite a spread. Now that I think about it, it probably was kiln dried. I am sorry that I gave the impression that it was junk stock. It is pretty nice material, but I have seen better. I sold thousands of BF of the stuff ,no time to grade .Most butt cuts are great in grade . Few years back there was a market for veneer popular a few first and second logs brought 65 cents a bf to a exporter . I never though your wood was junk stock . I got a bunch of cherry and white oak 2x4 left over from the sawmill I closed down ,most are great wood .I sawed hundreds of them into pallet stock . When we were sawing steady one day we did a count of 2x4's on hand .There were 15,000 of them,these were a by product of a needed product . The $3.00 bf wood is sold surfaced on four sides and someone has to stock it for resale sometimes for a good while also when kiln drying a lot of the wood gets degraded and tossed out . Some don't know once you remove wood from the kiln the wood will re acalgamate to the humidity in the air . Or a simply way to say it if it is MC will go up to the surrounding humidly . At one time here most popular lumber ,believe it or not was sold to Co's building caskets . Still today non veneer white oak goes to Co's making whiskey barrels . www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5raAcnZ0GA For those with a bad connection this video is a start to finish of a Co making whiskey barrels even charring them on the inside . |
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Post by 1shotwade on Jun 16, 2015 1:06:43 GMT
I don't know how much about the lumber business but around here when you find lumber like that it is" sticked" up. If it is then it was not kilned.Even if it was kilned over time the moisture content will return to the ambient humidity.If it was on the stick it could still be dry rotted.It will look OK but when you pick it up and put pressure on it,it will snap.This could still be used but not in anything that needs structural stability.
Also,all kilns around here will make at least one pass thru a thickness planner. If it has been planed good chance it may also have been kilned.If this was stacked without being "sticked up" it could have been kilned but may need to be run thru the kiln again to remove any moisture picked up from the atmosphere ,and lumber stacked together for long periods of time can deteriorate due to the lack of air flow and light penetration.
Every part of the country and every kiln will have different prices also. I noticed from the list Mari attached the only a few mile away it's a difference. Here planned and kilned F&S cedar is $.75 square foot. Also quarter sawn sycamore planned and kilned at that price is a steal!
Hope some of this helps some but I think you'll have to check locally to get the true value of what you have.
Wade
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Post by sawmilljim on Jun 16, 2015 4:32:23 GMT
Wade you are correct in value being a local thing . Like that sycamore here most goes in pallet stock or chipped one place won't take them sawed in ties either as a lot of them are shaky .
But I never heard of lumber dry rotting .
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Post by 1shotwade on Jun 16, 2015 12:44:15 GMT
Jim-Maybe that's the wrong word but it's the only way I know how to explain it.We've got around 5,000 feet on the stick that Dad had cut in the early 70's. It is what was left over from building a house.in that ,there are maybe 200- 2x4x14 that are bad like that. Pick it up and tap one end on the ground a they break.You can't see anything wrong with them until you break them ,then the inside looks "mealy". They are just like lumber that came from a log that was too far gone when it was sawed.(dead tree).
Best I can explain it.
Wade
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2015 15:00:11 GMT
THANK YOU so much for the replies!!!
I called a friend of mine who buys a bit of lumber for cabinet making. He says that $3 a lineal foot would be a GOOD deal in our area on the poplar that I had. That would mean that each stick would cost $24, at his prices.
I forgot to mention that I am a full time flea market seller. Sorry if this ticks anyone off because they spent time helping educate me so I can earn some money.
I had to mark the stock...I simply do not have anywhere to store it. I made an educated guess, and priced it between $10 and $14 a stick, depending on the grade. Nice stuff was marked at $14, and knotty stuff was marked at $10.
All in all, the lumber created quite a stir at the indoor flea market. This place is run like an antique mall. The men lined up around my truck in the parking lot while we were unloading it. I sold most of my 1 inch stock, all 4/4, to one guy. I was able to make all of my money back on those 7 boards, and while he got a good deal, I feel like I made an new friend.
Again, thank you so much!!!!
I have another load of 10 and 12 inch stock to pick up in a few minutes.
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Post by sawmilljim on Jun 16, 2015 15:07:53 GMT
Jim-Maybe that's the wrong word but it's the only way I know how to explain it.We've got around 5,000 feet on the stick that Dad had cut in the early 70's. It is what was left over from building a house.in that ,there are maybe 200- 2x4x14 that are bad like that. Pick it up and tap one end on the ground a they break.You can't see anything wrong with them until you break them ,then the inside looks "mealy". They are just like lumber that came from a log that was too far gone when it was sawed.(dead tree). Best I can explain it. Wade Most likely would be power post Beatles .Those things are super small make little bitty holes in the wood got to look close to see where they drill. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powderpost_beetle |
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Post by sawmilljim on Jun 16, 2015 15:09:57 GMT
THANK YOU so much for the replies!!! I called a friend of mine who buys a bit of lumber for cabinet making. He says that $3 a lineal foot would be a GOOD deal in our area on the poplar that I had. That would mean that each stick would cost $24, at his prices. I forgot to mention that I am a full time flea market seller. Sorry if this ticks anyone off because they spent time helping educate me so I can earn some money. I had to mark the stock...I simply do not have anywhere to store it. I made an educated guess, and priced it between $10 and $14 a stick, depending on the grade. Nice stuff was marked at $14, and knotty stuff was marked at $10. All in all, the lumber created quite a stir at the indoor flea market. This place is run like an antique mall. The men lined up around my truck in the parking lot while we were unloading it. I sold most of my 1 inch stock, all 4/4, to one guy. I was able to make all of my money back on those 7 boards, and while he got a good deal, I feel like I made an new friend. Again, thank you so much!!!! I have another load of 10 and 12 inch stock to pick up in a few minutes. I for one hope you make so much money you have to hire someone to bale it |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2015 15:22:45 GMT
Thanks, Jim!! I appreciate it!!!  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2015 4:08:47 GMT
I picked up the rest of the stock today. All of it is 10 and 12 inches wide, 7/4 thick, and 9 to 10 feet long. Wow...this is NICE stock!
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Post by sawmilljim on Jun 17, 2015 4:18:33 GMT
I picked up the rest of the stock today. All of it is 10 and 12 inches wide, 7/4 thick, and 9 to 10 feet long. Wow...this is NICE stock! I'm getting my baler fired up  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2015 4:19:51 GMT
I picked up the rest of the stock today. All of it is 10 and 12 inches wide, 7/4 thick, and 9 to 10 feet long. Wow...this is NICE stock! I'm getting my baler fired up |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2015 2:03:11 GMT
I've sold a few boards so far, but they aren't flying out of the place like I thought they would.
Not sure if I have mis-priced them, or if the right guys haven't come along yet. I'm still thinking the right guys haven't been in yet. I've been told many times "man, that is a good price for poplar!"
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Post by sawmilljim on Jul 1, 2015 2:20:45 GMT
I've sold a few boards so far, but they aren't flying out of the place like I thought they would. Not sure if I have mis-priced them, or if the right guys haven't come along yet. I'm still thinking the right guys haven't been in yet. I've been told many times "man, that is a good price for poplar!" I once had a few thousand BF of cherry everyone would comment on how valuable it was . When ask how many feet they wanted they said none . So I ask how they figured it was worth so much if everyone that came a long said the very same thing . |
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Post by 1shotwade on Jul 1, 2015 11:54:31 GMT
I've sold a few boards so far, but they aren't flying out of the place like I thought they would. Not sure if I have mis-priced them, or if the right guys haven't come along yet. I'm still thinking the right guys haven't been in yet. I've been told many times "man, that is a good price for poplar!" I once had a few thousand BF of cherry everyone would comment on how valuable it was . When ask how many feet they wanted they said none . So I ask how they figured it was worth so much if everyone that came a long said the very same thing . Jim,I think they were saying"Good price but money's tight,I need a deal!" Wade |
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