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Oils?
Feb 14, 2016 14:25:06 GMT
Post by bowdonkey on Feb 14, 2016 14:25:06 GMT
I have been pondering for years (yes years) of using some different oils found at our food store. What qualities do grapeseed and safflower add? There is also avocado, walnut and pumpkin. I plug these into a calculator, but it really doesn't tell me much. Any of you all (Cyndi) have any input as far as quality and physical hardness these add to a bar? I always do blender soaps in small batches and have a tried and true recipe that lends itself for experimentation. It uses shortening, coconut, olive and castor oils. I was thinking about subbing the olive for something different.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2016 0:12:57 GMT
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Post by Maura on Feb 16, 2016 0:43:07 GMT
I would keep the olive and replace the Crisco.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2016 10:02:27 GMT
Sunflower and grapeseed are nice light oils that don't weigh heavy on the skin. I use them as SF, in lotions/balms, and in my conditioners. They "soak" in well. Sometimes I sub canola oil for the olive oil. Simply because it is cheaper and plays about the as well as olive does. Plus I can get it at pretty much any grocery store.
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Post by Muller's Lane Farm on May 8, 2016 5:05:50 GMT
bowdonkey, Check out the descriptions of the oils at From Nature With Love. I believe they have every oil you mentioned and a few more to boot. High Linoleic Safflower, High Linoleic Sunflower, grapeseed and other oils high in linoleic (aka Omega 6) are great for moisturizing & replenishing the skin. I don't go over 15% in my recipe with one of these oils. What type of shortening are you using? Look at the ingredient list, is it soybean, palm, meat shortening (aka tallow)?
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Oils?
May 9, 2016 17:13:46 GMT
Post by bowdonkey on May 9, 2016 17:13:46 GMT
Cyndi, I use the cheapest vegatable based shortening available. I'll check the ingredient list, not sure what is in it. I have used some meat and vegetable blends in the past and some batches gave a slight garlic? odor to the soap. I do like rendering beef and venison fat when available. Seems to make a nice hard bar.
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Post by Muller's Lane Farm on Jun 4, 2016 3:03:04 GMT
bowdonkey, When using meat shortenings you need to keep the heat low. Just high enough to melt the oils (same when you render). If you use the cheapest veg shortening, most likely it is soy bean. What percentage of olive oil are you using in your recipe? If your shortening & coconut make up about 75%-80% of your recipe, you can safely use any other soft, liquid oil and not have to worry about it being too soft.
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Post by bowdonkey on Jun 4, 2016 11:38:09 GMT
The standard for my blender recipe is 9 oz shortening, 4 oz coconut, 2 oz olive and 1 oz castor. And of course essential oils as the spirit moves me. It's major into tick season and I've got to brew up a batch of pine tar and lavender. Believe it or not it's a heavenly combination. This soap does nothing to repel ticks and insects but it just seems right during bug season. And with the weather we are having, it will be a banner year for skeets. The pine tar is 2 oz of tar melted into2 oz castor, 6 oz coconut, 8 oz olive. I ran the formula with 3 oz of pine and it looks tempting but haven't made it that way yet. This can't be made in a blender by the way, just in case someone wants to attempt it. Instant seize, like leaving concrete in a mixer overnight. I'll post the pine tar recipe if someone wants to try it. Nice white lather, doesn't stain the shower like you think it might. Actually my favorite soap. I've been tempted to substitute in 15X Orange oil for Lavender.
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Post by Muller's Lane Farm on Jun 15, 2016 14:13:56 GMT
bowdonkey, I love pine tar soap and have used it as high as 15% in my recipes. You're right ... soap on a stick! I leave mine unscented however I can imagine the addition of lavender is heavenly! Back to your original recipe ... I ran the various oils you mentioned through my lye calculator. The one that intrigued me the most was pumpkin seed oil. Using 8 oz shortening 4 oz coconut, 2 oz olive and 2 oz pumpkin seed, your final soap should lather more, be a bit harder and be more conditioning. Pumpkin seed oil is a great source for vitamins A & E and is rich in omega 3 & 6 fatty acids. The rest of the oils you mentioned didn't change the fatty acid spectrum too much. Grapeseed oil is a nice oil to use in lotions. It is also high in vitamin E & omega 6. It is slightly astringent when used in lotions. The safflower you get in the store is generally high oleic safflower. It's properties are very similar to OO. If you're able to find high Linoleic safflower, then you're looking at an oil that is rich in omega 6. Walnut oil is the same ... high in omega 6. Avocado oil has vitamins A, B1, B2, D & E, panthothenic acid and proteins.
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Oils?
Jul 16, 2016 20:30:20 GMT
Post by bowdonkey on Jul 16, 2016 20:30:20 GMT
Just unmolded some pine tar soap, awesome smell, but it hasn't setup well. So at the moment I'd say don't use the recipe I posted. It's been never fail in the past. I did use a different type of olive oil but that's it. Back to the drawing board and soap calculator
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Post by Muller's Lane Farm on Jul 17, 2016 12:36:24 GMT
bowdonkey, take a look at the ingredient list on that olive oil. I once bought what I thought was a great deal on olive oil at a "Save A Lot" grocery store .... turned out it was a combination of olive, sunflower & soybean.
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Oils?
Jul 18, 2016 23:06:51 GMT
Post by farmchix on Jul 18, 2016 23:06:51 GMT
I use avocado and grapeseed for nourishment rather than hardness....also in smaller quantities. I like rice bran oil as well. The Japanese use rice bran oil - a lot - look at their skin....
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