Newly Discovered Prehistoric Bird Lived Near Warm North Pole

[bluemingidiot]

"The North Pole wasn’t always a winter wonderland. Rewind 90 million years, and scientists think it was probably as warm as parts of Florida."



"Scientists aren’t sure why Earth was stifling hot for several million years during the Cretaceous period, but according to Dr. Tarduno, the prevailing hypothesis is that the atmosphere was filled with heat-trapping carbon dioxide, most likely the result of extraordinary volcanic activity."



www.nytimes.com/2016/12/22/science/prehistoric-bird-arctic.html?module=WatchingPortal&region=c-column-middle-span-region&pgType=Homepage&action=click&mediaId=thumb_square&state=standard&contentPlacement=5&version=internal&contentCollection=www.nytimes.com&contentId=http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/22/science/prehistoric-bird-arctic.html&eventName=Watching-article-click&_r=0



Scientists also say when there is extraordinary volcanic activity it throws dust and ash particles in the stratosphere which blocks sunlight and makes the troposphere colder.




scied.ucar.edu/shortcontent/how-volcanoes-influence-climate



Just sayin...

[copperkid3]

Well....you know....whatever fits the agenda will work.

WHAT?!?!?! Can't have your cake and eat it too???

Seems to be working for Al (the hypocrite) Gore with his mansion
and private jet racing around the world promoting "global warming"....er... climate change.


Whatever floats your boat or in this particular year....freezes it solid because
of more ice on the polar regions than predicted by his bought & paid for "scientists."

I believe the entire state of Florida was supposed to be under water by this time,
as well as most parts of NYC, and other coastal cities, from a prediction made less than a decade ago.

Who knows, we've still got 8 days remaining in this year. I guess anything is possible....

[Deleted]

I don't know about Al Gore, was he Lesley Gore's son? But, the Artic ice sheet set a record low in November 2016.
This is 309,000 square miles below November 2006, the previous lowest November, and 753,000 square miles below the 1981 to 2010 long-term average for November.

From what I think would be interesting other than about half of New York City's infrastructure being under water if the ocean does decide to rise, is just what animal and plant species the melting ice will uncover. The odds are great that the history of the earth as we know it will be expanded by no small amount. I dig archeology and would love to know what's under the ice.

[copperkid3]

I love how 'fake' science gets a full dose of reality when something like "facts" get in their way.

Read 'em and weep....

www.climatedepot.com/2016/07/20/global-warming-expedition-stopped-in-its-tracks-by-arctic-sea-ice/

Not only that, but real science seems to indicate that not much has really changed in the past 100 years.

www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2016/11/24/scott-shackleton-logbooks-prove-antarctic-sea-ice-not-shrinking/

All I can think of for these so-called pseudo-scientists who are pushing climate change/global warming/whateverflavorofthemonth,

must have bought stock in Al Gore's carbon credit company and are trying to keep it 'afloat' (pun intended; figuratively/literally - your choice)

long enough to eventually cash out and reap their ill-gotten gains.  The love of money does strange things to normal rational folk.  Pity them not.....

[Deleted]

In the meantime it was still a way cool bird they found. About the size of a duck.
Polly want a cracker?

[bluemingidiot]

Wonder if the bird would have been better with dressing or dumplings?

[Deleted]

With all those teeth, it was probably a meat eater extraordinaire, so probably more dark meat than usual. I'd say a stuffing of bamboo shoots and gator tail would have gone well.

[paquebot]

When it comes to volcanic output, there are two basic types. One is gas and the other is solids. One will warm Earth and the other will cool it. Carbon dioxide is being given off by many volcanoes around the world right now. We know that there have been some massive eruptions in the past and some may have emitted massive amounts if carbon dioxide. Unless one can find ice that old, there is no way of detecting it now as would be from a period of cooling caused by ash. It would have taken very little time for fauna to populate a thawed and warm Arctic under the influence of the temporary warming due to carbon dioxide.

Martin

[bluemingidiot]

"While carbon dioxide is typically painted as the bad boy of greenhouse gases, methane is roughly 30 times more potent as a heat-trapping gas."

blogs.princeton.edu/research/2014/03/26/a-more-potent-greenhouse-gas-than-co2-methane-emissions-will-leap-as-earth-warms-nature/

"At high pressures, such as are found on the bottom of the ocean, methane forms a solid clathrate with water, known as methane hydrate. An unknown, but possibly very large quantity of methane is trapped in this form in ocean sediments. The release of large volumes of methane gas from such sediments into the atmosphere has been suggested as a possible cause for rapid global warming events in the Earth's distant past."

"Wetlands account for approximately 20 percent of atmospheric methane through emissions from soils and plants."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheric_methane

"Between 1990 and 2012, methane emissions in the U.S. decreased by about 11 percent because of decreased exploration of natural gas and petroleum within the country, but emissions from animal agriculture still increased."

www.onegreenplanet.org/animalsandnature/methane-vs-carbon-dioxide-a-greenhouse-gas-showdown/

I wonder how much methane containing flatulence a world, including the Artic and possibly the Antarctic, full of larger and more animal life than today could produce?

[Deleted]

No wonder man's sense of smell is not as developed as the rest of the animal kingdom, given that possibility.

[kkbhf]

Dec 26, 2016 3:59:14 GMT bluemingidiot said:

I wonder how much methane containing flatulence a world, including the Artic and possibly the Antarctic, full of larger and more animal life than today could produce?

Just what I wanted to contemplate tonight; dinosaurs with the vapors.

[bluemingidiot]

Sounds like a toy worth a patent.

[Deleted]

For the past while the Arctic has been near 30 degrees Celsius  above normal for this time of year and Arctic sea ice is far below normal, the water temperature is above freezing. 

www.cbc.ca/news/technology/arctic-temperatures-warmth-1.3910765

 

........ As for how long this will last, it's anyone's guess.

"It's not inconceivable that it could last another couple of months or the chaos that exists will wipe out the pattern in a week or so. We don't know which one. We think, though, long-term that we're loading the dice in terms of these warm and cold events."........